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<div>New to /fa/? Come here from MFA and need to start over? Girlfriend burn your clothes? We understand.<br />
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Below, you will find a quick guide to wardrobe essentials.<br />
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Also, please read the '''[[Introduction]]'''. <br />
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== Tops ==<br />
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===T-Shirts===<br />
[[File:teeshirt.jpg|thumb|250px|Acne crew neck tee.]]<br />
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'''Color:'''<br />
White, navy, black, heather grey, slate, and dark green can be worn with almost anything without much thought and work with most skin tones. Pale versions of otherwise bold colors will also tend to be more versatile than their more richly colored counterparts--pale pink, pale yellow, pale blue (as opposed to electric blue), etc. Solid color tees should suit your skin and hair, not clash with or closely match your skin tone. And, in general, men with darker features will find it easier to wear bolder colors. <br />
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Men might find color selection to be one of the more difficult aspects of clothing selection, and much of the advice floating around online isn't very helpful. Your best bet is to experiment with different colors--eliciting the advice of a trusted friend if possible. Even if a color is considered extremely versatile, if you don't like the way it makes you look, don't wear it.<br />
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'''Fit:'''<br />
Try to find tees that aren't too loose or too tight. And while there is no "ideal fit" (some men like to wear over sized tees to emphasize their leanness), one of the fundamentals of dressing well is knowing how things ''should'' fit. One of the most important markers is the shoulder seam. It should line up with the "point" of your shoulder. <br />
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There are also multiple styles of necklines such as the scoop neck and the v neck, but the crew neck will be the most versatile. A crew neck is simply the ubiquitous rounded neckline that most tees have. V necks, however, are ideal undershirts as they remain hidden when worn underneath a partially unbuttoned shirt.<br />
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'''Other Considerations'''<br />
*If you prefer a looser fit, don't just buy normal tees in a larger size. Buy tees that are cut for an over sized style.<br />
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*If you don't want the sleeves of a tee to flare out search for companies that make tees with tapered sleeves like Uniqlo, J Crew, or James Perse.<br />
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*Consider whether you prefer thicker or thinner material for your tees.<br />
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*Consider how you'd like your tees to hold up after multiple washes. A cheaper shirt might look nice at first, but careless washing may cause it to quickly pill (become nappy), warp, fade, or even come undone along the seams. This is especially true of tees with synthetic blends, which become nappy easily. In general, cold water and line drying or drying on a no-heat setting will help maintain the shirt's original look.<br />
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*Other styles of tees: thermal tees, raglan (aka baseball tees), henleys, patterned tees (color blocked, striped, speckled etc.), and graphic tees are all great additions to a wardrobe. <br />
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====Recommended Brands====<br />
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''Under $10''<br />
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*Gildan, H&M, Mossimo Supply Co. (aka Target brand, "athletic fit"), Uniqlo <br />
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''$15-45''<br />
*Everlane, GAP, Urban Outfitters, American Apparel, Alternative Apparel, J Crew, COS<br />
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''$45 & Up''<br />
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*James Perse, Acne, Sunspel, Alexander Wang, Jil Sander, Our Legacy<br />
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===Shirts===<br />
[[File:shirt2.jpg|thumb|250px|Patrik Ervell heavy button collar shirt.]]<br />
Button-downs and button-ups are often simply referred to as "shirts" by clothiers. As with anything else, having the right fit is important. Nowadays, well tailored, slim fitting shirts are easy to find (look or ask for shirts denoted as "slim"), but consider taking your shirts to a tailor if you can't find that perfect fit off the rack, especially if it's for a minor alteration like having a sleeve shortened.<br />
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'''Color:'''<br />
Solid colored oxfords (white and light blue are popular) and at least one white dress shirt (to be worn with a suit) is a good starting point. Plaids are also a fine option, including patterns like gingham, tattersall, and madras.<br />
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'''Fit:'''<br />
A shirt's shoulder seam should fit on the "point" of your shoulder. This is the most important part of a proper fit, as it is the most difficult to alter. A shirt's waist should not puff out too much. This indicates that the shirt is cut too boxy (a "traditional" fit) or is too large. Look for ready tailored shirts denoted as "slim" or "tailored." <br />
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'''Dress Shirts and Sport Shirts'''<br />
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Note the difference between dress shirts and sport shirts. Dress shirts feature a stiff collar and/or collar stays, a spread collar (to accommodate a tie), will generally be made of finer fabrics, will not have more than one pocket, and may size by sleeve and neck measurements. Sport shirts are often made out of coarser fabrics like oxford cloth, may have multiple pockets, feature less conservative patterns, a button down collar, and may use small, medium, and large sizing. <br />
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Dress shirts should generally not be worn causally and should be tucked in. Sport shirts can be worn causally, but also with a suit and tie in less formal occasions. If worn untucked, a shirt should extend mid way down the fly, but not farther than the bottom of the fly.<br />
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'''Other notes'''<br />
*Generally, avoid black dress shirts unless you're top gun at the local Applebees. <br />
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*Avoid over designed shirts: embellishments like epaulets and buttoned tabs down the middle of the sleeve look like shit.<br />
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*Avoid neon and bright pastel shirts. Their flashiness may catch your eye when shopping, but you will find yourself feeling very tacky when you actually put them to use.<br />
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*Shirts do not have to be washed after every wear, especially when worn with an undershirt. Wash it when it becomes dirty or smells. If you care about your clothing, take care in how you wash it.<br />
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*Leave the top button undone unless you're wearing a tie.<br />
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====Recommended brands====<br />
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''Under $50''<br />
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*Asos, H&M, Uniqlo, Gap<br />
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''Under $100''<br />
*Polo Ralph Lauren (look for "custom" and "slim" fit shirts), Express, J Crew, Club Monaco, Bonobos, Brooks Brothers (look for slim styles)<br />
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''Over $100''<br />
*Gant, J Press/York Street, Gitman Bros, Gitman Vintage, Patrik Ervell, Thom Browne<br />
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===Sweaters, Knits, and Hoodies===<br />
[[File:sweater1.jpg|thumb|250px|Jil Sander camel and wool blend sweater.]]<br />
Cotton sweaters, wool knits, cardigans, and hoodies allow for layering in casual and business casual environments. <br />
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'''Color:'''<br />
Navy, black, grey and heather grey are common choices for cotton crews and hoodies; and navy, grey, camel, dark grey, and dark green for fine woolen sweaters. <br />
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'''Fit:'''<br />
You should generally buy the same size sweater that you buy for shirts, despite the common misconception that there is a need to "size up" to accommodate for the shirt underneath.<br />
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Thick woolen sweaters are inherently more casual and should generally not be used for business environments. Fine woolen v neck sweaters offer room for ties and while these can be worn casually, especially deep v necks should not be worn without ties.<br />
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Feel free to purchase sweaters with different patterns and styles like stripes, color blocked sweaters, speckled Donegal sweaters, cable knit sweaters, fisherman sweaters, etc. <br />
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But, for the love of god, do not buy an argyle sweater.<br />
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====Recommended Brands====<br />
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'''Cotton Hoodies and Sweaters'''<br />
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''Under $100''<br />
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*Uniqlo, American Apparel, J Crew, American Giant, Archival<br />
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''Over $100''<br />
*Norse Projects, Acne, A.P.C, Carhartt WIP, Reigning Champ, Loopwheeler, The Real McCoy, Left Field, Our Legacy, Wings + Horns, Sunspel, Alexander Wang<br />
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'''Wool Knits'''<br />
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''Under $100''<br />
*Uniqlo, J Crew, Banana Republic<br />
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''Over $100''<br />
*Folk, Jil Sander, A.P.C, Zanone, Zegna<br />
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== Bottoms ==<br />
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===Shorts===<br />
[[File:shorts.jpg|thumb|250px|Incotex linen and cotton blend shorts.]]<br />
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As a beginner, opt for solid colored shorts like gray, navy, and khaki. Flat front chino shorts should be your first selection (burn your cargo shorts).<br />
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Look for shorts that end just above the knee cap or higher, whatever you're most comfortable with. For most men this will mean a 10" or shorter inseam. In general you'll want the opening of your shorts to be wide--wider than you'd want from your pants, both for the sake of air circulation and for looks. Skinny, thigh hugging shorts tend to be unflattering.<br />
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Chambray and linen shorts are also widely available during the spring/summer season. Seersucker, a less popular choice, is notable for its breathability and wavy texture. The only varieties generally rejected on /fa/ are plaid shorts and denim shorts. <br />
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====Recommended Brands====<br />
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''Under $50''<br />
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*H&M, Uniqlo, Gap<br />
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''Over $50''<br />
*J Crew, Club Monaco, Vineyard Vines, Gant, Incotex, AMI<br />
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===Pants===<br />
[[File:trousers.jpg|thumb|250px|Jil Sander wool and cashmere blend trousers featuring a slight break.]]<br />
[[File:breaktrousers.jpg|thumb|250px|An example of several breaks.]]<br />
Slim flat front chinos in neutral and earth tones as well as navy or charcoal wool trousers work for casual and more formal outfits. (If you've never heard of the term "chino", you may have been calling them "khakis." Chino is the more correct term.)<br />
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Consider the color of your dress shoes (particularly if you don't have a variety) when selecting dress pants. Don't wear white pants.<br />
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'''A Note on Breaks:'''<br />
The "break" of a pair of pants refers to how the fabric falls, folds, or "breaks" onto the shoe. A "full break" or too much break sees the fabric folding over heavily onto the shoe. This is generally not in style and can appear careless and sloppy. A slight break or no break, on the other hand, has been popular in recent years. The term "highwaters" refers to pants so short or rolled up that the entire ankle is visible, a style exemplified by Thom Browne. Your safest option will be a slight or medium break in formal settings. Worn casually, a rolled cuff on a pair of chinos or jeans can allow for airflow during warmer months.<br />
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====Recommended brands====<br />
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''Under $100''<br />
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*Uniqlo, Dockers Alpha Khaki, GAP, J Crew, Polo Ralph Lauren<br />
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''Over $100''<br />
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*Epaulet, Slowear, Jil Sander<br />
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===Jeans===<br />
[[File:jeans1.jpg|thumb|250px|United Dry Stock Goods raw selvedge denim.]]<br />
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Dark "raw" jeans and a mid blue faded jean are the most versatile jeans you can have in your wardrobe. Many men also like a pair of black jeans. It depends on personal preference. <br />
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Side Note: Outsourcing in the 90s made jeans cheaper, but didn't make them better (see our entry on [[Levi's]] for a case in point). We couldn't more strongly advise you--particularly if you wear jeans every day--spend more on your jeans than you might be used to spending. <br />
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'''Fit:'''<br />
Look for a fit that compliments your body. For most men, a slim tapered jean will work best (look for the term "slim") as it follows the natural shape of the leg. For larger men or men with large thighs, a straight cut ("straight" or "slim straight") might be a better option. Don't feel the need to stick to any one fit either. It's nice to have some variety.<br />
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Consider buying jeans that feel snug in the waist and around the groin as denim will stretch over time. <br />
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'''Raw Denim:''' <br />
Raw jeans come from the factory unwashed and can be identified by their uniform, dark indigo color and the stiffness of their fabric. The value of raw denim is that it allows natural fading to occur over time as indigo loosens around stress points. This stands in starch contrast (huehue) to pre-faded jeans which have artificial fading and distressing that often appears inauthentic, out of sync with the wearer's body, or simply bad.<br />
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Part of the aversion /fa/ has towards prefaded jeans, however, comes from the style's dominance in lower priced markets. "Cheap" and "prefaded" have become synonymous. This is--to an extent--an unfair generalization, and prefaded jeans at higher price points, using more sophisticated and considered processes, dyes, and construction are worth considering especially given how versatile a smartly faded blue jean can be.<br />
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'''Selvedge Jeans:''' Selvedge is a type of fabric that creates a clean edge or "self edge" visible on the outseam. A large percentage of higher end jeans are made with selvedge denim. All jeans used to be made with selvedge denim. You don't have to get selvedge or even raw jeans, but you should get something better than a pair of Levi's when you can afford it.<br />
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See '''[[Denim 101]]''' for a list of recommended brands and a guide to everything denim.<br />
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== Shoes ==<br />
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*'''[[Sneakers]]''': Canvas sneakers are a hallmark of spring and summer outfits. Suede and leather sneakers, as well as some running sneakers, work with a variety of outfits and have the benefit of being comfortable and low profile.<br />
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*'''[[Boots]]''': Boots are a good option for colder months, but can be worn year round. A decent quality boot will have a certain luster and depth of color that cheaper boots won't and will be more durable.<br />
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*'''[http://tuxbell.com/fa/majortest/index.php?title=Shoes Dress Shoes]''': Essential to any wardrobe even if they're reserved for special occasions. Black or brown derbies are extremely versatile.<br />
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== Outerwear ==<br />
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Outerwear is a large subject. Asking what sort of jacket to get is different than, say, asking what sort of jeans you should get. It's a much broader topic and can be overwhelming to those just getting into clothing. One of the best ways to address this is by familiarizing yourself with the basic types of outerwear on the market.<br />
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See '''[[Outerwear]]''' for more information.<br />
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== Accessories ==<br />
===Bags===<br />
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Messenger bags were popular a few years ago. Now backpacks are in again. You probably looked like a faggot with a messenger bag anyway. <br />
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====Backpacks:====<br />
*Archival Clothing<br />
*Everlane<br />
*Eastpak<br />
*Kletterwerks<br />
*Hershel<br />
*Fjallravens <br />
*MAKR<br />
*South2 West8<br />
*Seil Marschall<br />
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===Hats===<br />
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Baseball caps and beanies are really the only safe, innocuous hat styles for men. The 5 panel hat is similar to the 6 panel baseball cap, but is more "trendy", having been adopted by hypebeasts and swagfags.<br />
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'''NO FEDORAS, NOT EVER'''<br />
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===Watches===<br />
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Watches are one of the few socially acceptable forms of jewelry for a man to wear, but should not be considered necessary to a man's wardrobe. If you wish to purchase a watch, we recommend a simple design rather than something over designed or bulky, especially if you don't have large enough wrists to compensate. <br />
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Inexpensive:<br />
*Timex Weekender & Easy Reader<br />
*Swatch Irony, Body Soul<br />
*Seiko 5<br />
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Mid range:<br />
*Seiko Orange Monster<br />
*Orient Mako <br />
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Entry level luxury:<br />
*Hamilton Khaki<br />
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Inevitably, you will probably be curious about fake watches/replicas. Contrary to presumption, quality replicas can be had. However, it is important to A) do your research first, B) not expect a exact replica (There will always be "tells", no matter how minute.), and C) buy the dealer, not the price: paying a little more for a more reliable,helpful, or communicative dealer will be worth the trouble saved. Join a replica watch forum such as [http://www.replica-watch.info/vb/ replica-watch.info] that has trusted dealers and start there. As a final note, buying allegedly "Genuine ETA movements" in replicas is highly discouraged: you probably won't be able to verify the movement's authenticity and few will want to do it for you. Even if you do manage to receive a genuine ETA movement, it may be recycled, as in [http://www.rwg.bz/board/index.php?showtopic=3478 this thread].<br />
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===Glasses & Sunglasses===<br />
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As a general guideline, you should choose something that accentuates your [http://www.framesdirect.com/include/information/face_shape_guide.aspx face shape]. One of the few things /fa/ is good at is choosing between different glasses given the right images. So post a picture of yourself wearing different glasses if you want any useful advice.<br />
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Quality is very important with sunglasses. When you put glasses on, your eyes open up more because the world is now dimmer. However, if your glasses do not offer proper UV protection, your eyes are open wide and letting in more harmful rays than normal. It is almost always better for your eyes to squint and deal with it than to wear cheap sunglasses and fool your eyes into thinking they are protected. <br />
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'''Notable Brands'''<br />
*[http://rayban.com Ray-Ban]<br />
*Oliver Peoples<br />
*Tom Ford<br />
*Persol<br />
*Warby Parker<br />
*Randolph Engineering<br />
*American Optical<br />
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===Bracelets===<br />
Why?<br />
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== What to Wear During What Season ==<br />
''Above all else, remember to dress appropriately to the weather around you (e.g., don't wear shorts if it's cold).''<br />
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'''Spring'''<br />
*Tops: t-shirts, shirts, polos, light-weight jackets<br />
*Bottoms: any<br />
*Footwear: any<br />
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'''Summer'''<br />
*Tops: t-shirts, thin shirts, polos<br />
*Bottoms: shorts, pants (linen and chino are great)<br />
*Footwear: low-top sneakers, boat shoes, sandals, loafers<br />
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'''Autumn'''<br />
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*Tops: shirts, cardigans, jackets<br />
*Bottoms: pants, jeans<br />
*Footwear: sneakers, boots<br />
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'''Winter'''<br />
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*Tops: layer your outerwear over shirts or tees<br />
*Bottoms: pants, jeans<br />
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<div>==Foreword==<br />
Shoes are the cornerstone of every outfit. Shoes are the most abused pieces in your wardrobe by default. Shoes say everything. You can wear the finest tops and jeans by whomever but it will be worth nothing if you run around in a cheap pair of walmart sandals. Enjoy wear and tear in moderation. There is a difference between signs of age and just looking like shit. More expensive shoes/materials usually age better. Try to avoid shoes from fast-fashion stores.<br />
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==General Types and Styles of Shoes==<br />
==='''Oxfords and Derbies'''===<br />
[[File:123.jpg|thumb|332px|Distinguishing between an oxford and derby]]<br />
The two most common styles of men's dress shoes, the oxford and derby are distinguished by their "lacing type," or how the eyelet tabs are stitched in relation to the vamp. Oxfords (also called Balmorals) feature a "closed lacing" style in which the eyelet tabs are stitched underneath the vamp. Derbies (also called Bucks, Gibsons, or Bluchers) feature an "open lacing" style in which the tabs are stitched on top of the vamp (see picture for details). In general, derbies are considered more casual and oxfords more formal.<br />
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===Other Styles===<br />
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<p style="margin-top:0.4em;margin-bottom:0.5em;">''Loafers and Boat Shoes''</p><br />
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: Low cut shoes with no or largely nonfunctional laces and typically a moc toe construction. Generally considered more casual than a laced shoe.<br />
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''Chukka''<br />
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[[File:363223_mrp_fr_xl.jpg|thumb|252px|An example of oxford shoes with full broguing (aka wingtips).]]<br />
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: An ankle length boot with two or three pairs of eyelets. Worn casually, desert boots are a popular style of chukka.<br />
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''Monk Strap''<br />
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: A style of laceless shoe closed with one or two straps and buckles. A monk shoe with two straps may be refered to as a "double monk."<br />
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==='''Embellishments'''===<br />
''Brogues''<br />
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: Any shoe or boot with broguing--small decorative perforations, often along with serrations along the visible edges (e.g. along the throat line, toe cap, and tongue). A shoe can simultaneously be an oxford (or derby) and a pair of "brogues". Due to the functional purpose of broguing, brogues were originally considered a casual <span style="font-size:13px;line-height:21px;">shoe, but this is no longer true. Brogueing can be found on both casual and formal shoes.</span><br />
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: Additionally, there are different terms for the extent and style of broguing: the popular <span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:12.800000190734863px;line-height:19.200000762939453px;">full brogue (or wingtip), semi-brogue, quarter brogue, as well as the longwing style.</span><br />
''Cap Toe''<br />
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[[File:Allenedmonds7_shoes_park-avenue_walnut-cloud_l.jpg|thumb|246px|A shoe with a capped toe.]]<br />
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: A shoe with an extra layer of material covering the toe of the shoe. There are different styles of toe caps, but generally when a shoe is refered to as "cap toed" it will be a simple cap like the one shown to the right. A toe cap can be found on any type of shoe from dress shoes, to boots, and even sneakers.<br />
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''Moc Toe''<br />
: Short for <span style="color:rgb(68,68,68);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small;line-height:12.800000190734863px;">moccasin</span><span style="color:rgb(68,68,68);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small;line-height:12.800000190734863px;"> toe, a construction wherein visible seams run along the toe box of a shoe.</span><br />
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==Leather Shoes and Boots (A List of Recommendations)==<br />
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==='''Dress Shoes and Boots'''===<br />
: ''<span style="font-size:14px;">Under $200</span>''<br />
*Bass<br />
*[http://www.chippewaboots.com/category/classics Chippewa Classics] (boots)<br />
*Clarks (boots)<br />
*Florsheim<br />
*Johnston & Murphy<br />
*LL Bean (esp. their [http://www.llbean.com/llb/shop/49464?page=mens-katahdin-iron-works-engineer-boots&subrnd=0 Katahdin boot])<br />
*[http://www.sebago.com/US/en/Men-BoatShoes-B Sebago boat shoes]<br />
*[http://www.sperrytopsider.com/store/SiteController/sperry/subcategory?catId=cat90046DM&subCatId=cat100066DM& Sperry boat shoes]<br />
*Thorogood (boots)<br />
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: ''<span style="font-size:14px;">$200 & UP</span>''<br />
*Allen Edmonds<br />
*[http://www.eastlandshoe.com/category/mens+shoes/mens+made+in+maine+usa.do Eastland Made In Maine]<br />
*[http://www.florsheim.com/shop/styles/shoes/imperial/page0.html Florsheim Imperial ]<br />
*Grenson<br />
*Loake (UK)<br />
*Meermin<br />
*Oak Street Bootmakers (boots, boat shoes, and loafers)<br />
*Quoddy (boots, boat shoes, loafers)<br />
*Rancourt<br />
*[http://www.redwingheritage.com/ Red Wing Heritage]<br />
*[http://www.wolverine.com/US/en/ViewAll Wolverine 1000 Mile]<br />
*YMC<br />
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: ''<span style="font-size:14px;">$400 & UP</span>''<br />
*Alden (shoes and boots)<br />
*Church's<br />
*Carmina<br />
*Crockett and Jones<br />
*[http://stumptown.danner.com/ Danner ]<br />
*Dayton (esp. [http://www.daytonboots.com/product/service-boot/ Service Boots] )<br />
*Harry's of London<br />
*Mark McNairy<br />
*Paul Smith<br />
*Paul Stuart<br />
*Salvatore Ferragamo<br />
*[http://www.sebago.com/US/en/HandsewninMaine Sebago Made In Maine]<br />
*Yuketen<br />
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: ''$700 & UP''<br />
*Botega Veneta<br />
*Corthay<br />
*Dolce and Gabbana<br />
*Edward Green<br />
*Gaziano and Girling<br />
*George Esquivel<br />
*Lanvin<br />
*Lohn Lobb<br />
*Maison Martin Margiela<br />
*Prada<br />
*Saint Crispin<br />
*Scarpe Di Bianco<br />
*Thom Browne<br />
*Visvim<br />
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==='''Options for Vegans and Ethical Vegetarians'''===<br />
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*[http://www.bravegentleman.com/shoes.html Brave Gentleman]<br />
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*[http://goodguys.bigcartel.com/good-guys-don-t-wear-leather Good Guys]<br />
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*[http://www.noharm.com/ No Harm]<br />
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==Sneakers==<br />
====Canvas Sneakers====<br />
Converse, Jack Purcell, Pro Keds, Keds, Vans, Sperry, Tretorn, Superga, PF Flyers, Seavees.<br />
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====Leather and Suede Sneakers====<br />
New Balance, Nike, Adidas, Puma, Vans Vault, Common Projects, Seavees, </div>Aiouhhttp://tuxbell.com/index.php/User_talk:AiouhUser talk:Aiouh2013-05-29T19:19:28Z<p>Aiouh: Created page with "blank"</p>
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<div>blank</div>Aiouhhttp://tuxbell.com/index.php/BootsBoots2013-05-29T06:26:40Z<p>Aiouh: Created page with "Boots are often less versatile than sneakers, but are just as vital to a wardrobe. Two pairs, one black & one brown, is a good start. Beeswax Clarks Desert Boots, while overpl..."</p>
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<div>Boots are often less versatile than sneakers, but are just as vital to a wardrobe. Two pairs, one black & one brown, is a good start. Beeswax Clarks Desert Boots, while overplayed, can be a great casual boot. Decent brands include: Wolverine, Doc Martens, and [[Red Wing]].<br />
<br />
ADD MORE STUFF ABOUT BOOTS</div>Aiouhhttp://tuxbell.com/index.php/Men%27s_BasicsMen's Basics2013-05-29T06:26:20Z<p>Aiouh: /* Shoes */</p>
<hr />
<div>New to /fa/? Come here from MFA and need to start over? Girlfriend burn your clothes? We understand.<br />
<br />
Here's where to find some wardrobe essentials on the cheap.<br />
<br />
If you are out of shape, pay a visit to [http://www.4chan.org/fit /fit/] and return when you have your ideal body.<br />
<br />
This [[Introduction]] is a '''strongly recommended''' read for ''both'' genders.<br />
<br />
== Tops ==<br />
<br />
'''T-Shirts'''<br />
<br />
You don't want tees that fit too close to the body nor tees that are too baggy. Be prepared to try a bunch of brands before you find a cut that fits you the best.<br />
Also try to figure out whether v-necks or crewnecks flatter you better. You still want to have both though.<br />
<br />
- Plenty of grey, black, and white tees. These are neutral colors that can almost be worn with anything without spending too much thought and will provide solid base to expand upon. Colours such as navy, burgundy, beige and olive are good if you are confident in being able to work them into your wardrobe.<br />
<br />
- Solid color tees in colors that suit you well. Desaturated/muted colors work well here. They generally shouldn't clash or match with your skintone. Newbies: Stick with solid color tees until you acquire a taste for what designs on a graphic shirt work.<br />
<br />
<br />
'''Shirts (Button-downs/ups)'''<br />
<br />
- For reference, button-downs and button-ups are simply referred to as "shirt" by the majority of online stores. Other shirts will often be labelled as such, e.g. tees, polos. Fit is everything here, especially in a business environment where it is difficult to stand out.<br />
<br />
- Amount varies greatly - if your job requires them, get more. DON'T BUY: black dress shirts, striped dress shirts. Trust us. White, light blue You can opt for solid colors to play it safe, go for a gingham, or another subtle pattern. Buy flannels sparingly.<br />
<br />
- There is a difference between a dress shirt and a casual shirt: For a dress shirt you will be looking for something constructed with clear shoulder seams and a stiff collar, usually with a shorter torso so that it will not create a '''puffy''' look when tucked in. Whereas for a casual shirt you will look for something with little construction that fits loosely, perhaps a size up.<br />
<br />
== Bottoms ==<br />
'''Shorts'''<br />
<br />
*Color: As a beginner you should avoid patterns and go for a solid colour, common colours are black, navy and khaki.<br />
<br />
*Length: Make sure when buying shorts that they are the right length - choose pants that are above your knee but don't show off all of your legs, a good length is 3/4 or 4/5 thigh when standing. <br />
<br />
*Fabric: Avoid denim shorts, they will always look bad unless you are named Tobias Fünke. If you are in high school they can be somewhat passable, but you must make sure they are a dark color denim and you roll them so they don't look like cut-offs<br />
<br />
'''Pants'''<br />
<br />
*Contrary to what your dad told you: you do not want pants that stack up on your shoes nor do you want pants that could fit your leg into each side twice over. Look for pants that are made with a taper that stop at an appropriate length(This would be your ankle). If you aren't able to find well fitting pants or are not able to afford the pair you find then you can take your pants to a tailor and get them altered to a perfect fit.<br />
<br />
'''Jeans'''<br />
<br />
*Jeans are very casual and shouldn't be worn anywhere other than a casual setting.<br />
<br />
*Color: Once you have your first pair of jeans you may want to expand your collection, good starter colours are black, khahki and burgundy for the more adventurous. <br />
<br />
*Skinny Jeans: If your waist is 28 and your legs are 32 you do not buy a pair of skinny jeans that are 28x32 because they will look too tight. Remember: Just because you can fit into it, doesn't mean it fits. However if tightness is what you're looking for it is advisable to try them on first. Some may be too small to even get on while others may be too loose.<br />
<br />
*[[Raw Jeans]]: these cost more, but are typically of higher quality. Pre-washed/aged jeans are usually frowned upon as it tends to look really cheap, unpersonal and fake.<br />
<br />
== Shoes ==<br />
<br />
/fa/ usually tries to keep their shoes as simple as possible design-wise. Try to avoid irritating colorways and overly confusing lines, but then again it all boils down to taste. Just remember, less is more sometimes. <br />
<br />
[[Sneakers]]: Sneakers are extremely versatile, and a great replacement for whatever you are wearing now(probably). They can easily be dressed up or down. A few pairs, in mute colors like white or black, should cover your wardrobe and not break the bank. <br />
<br />
[[Boots]]: Boots are often less versatile than sneakers, but are just as vital to a wardrobe. A black and one brown pair are a good start. <br />
<br />
For more information on these shoes and their recommended brands, please visit their respective pages.<br />
<br />
== Outerwear ==<br />
<br />
For the most part, fleece jackets and vests should be avoided as they are overdone, unstylish, and usually just bought because they are a cheaper alternative. Also try to avoid jackets with a lot of 'gearing' such as unnecessary belt straps, an excess of zippers, buttons, or straps, several pockets which would likely go unused, and very flashy designs in bright colors. THe style of jacket/coat which you may find yourself using is usually heavily influenced by the style you are attempting to use (i.e. You would not see a man into menswear wearing an oversized orange parka). For most styles, a black leather jacket works well and seems to be one of the basics for outerwear, with more styles of jackets/coats being available as the user becomes comfortable with their style and knows well what can compliment it. Pictured right is an example of an /fa/ user "doing it right". Notice how the jacket drapes yet isn't too large where he looks like a child in it. Also notice how the solid coloring doesn't conflict with the outfit below it, and in fact, compliments the color and silhouette of it. The outerwear should never conflict with the outfit underneath it and should never be the main piece of an outfit, or else when you take it off, you just become basic. <br />
<br />
When it comes to brands, don't be shy to only go for what you can afford, as outerwear can easily end up being one of the most expensive pieces in an outfit. Even though you'll find several anons who detest the name, The North Face isn't an entirely bad place to start off with outerwear, so long as you don't mind the obnoxious branding and steer clear of the over designed 20 pocket ones. To find the best, though, you may have to search if you aren't satisfied with the brands in the [[Brand Reviews]] section of the sticky as most people on /fa/ aren't too knowledgeable on the subject of what makes quality outerwear and what an appropriate price is. <br />
<br />
ADD TO THIS! <br />
<br />
Undercover makes good jackets for people with more money.<br />
<br />
== Accessories ==<br />
<br />
'''Watches'''<br />
<br />
Watches should make a welcome addition to any outfit. They will need to be simple to avoid looking tacky. e.g Nato strap watch.<br />
<br />
*Cheap: Timex Weekender, Casio F-91W<br />
<br />
'''Hats'''<br />
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joke A fedora is always a top priority to be stylish. Don't forget to brush up on your Japanese and wear your trench coat.]<br />
<br />
'''Necklaces'''<br />
*Necklaces are almost unanimously bad. Bracelets can work if the colours match and they aren't cheap looking (e.g. beads) but it is not advisable for a beginner.<br />
<br />
'''Glasses'''<br />
*Ray Ban.</div>Aiouhhttp://tuxbell.com/index.php/SneakersSneakers2013-05-29T06:24:30Z<p>Aiouh: </p>
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<div>sneak·er <br />
/ˈsnēkər/<br />
Noun<br />
A soft shoe with a rubber sole worn for sports or casual occasions.<br />
<br />
==Low-top sneakers== <br />
Low-tops are extremely versatile, and a great replacement for ratty tennis shoes. They can easily be dressed up or down. These are often not too pricey. A few pairs, in mute colors like white or black, should cover your wardrobe and not break the bank. <br />
<br />
'''ADD MORE ABOUT DIFFERENT BRANDS AND STUFF FROM PRICE RANGES'''<br />
<br />
''Examples - Cheap'':<br />
<br />
Vans Authentics,Chucks/Converse, Gravis, Nike All Courts, Nike Go!, Addidas Samba, Addidas Adi Ease<br />
<br />
==High-top sneakers==</div>Aiouhhttp://tuxbell.com/index.php/SneakersSneakers2013-05-29T06:23:53Z<p>Aiouh: /* Low-top sneakers */</p>
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<div>==Low-top sneakers== <br />
Low-tops are extremely versatile, and a great replacement for ratty tennis shoes. They can easily be dressed up or down. These are often not too pricey. A few pairs, in mute colors like white or black, should cover your wardrobe and not break the bank. <br />
<br />
'''ADD MORE ABOUT DIFFERENT BRANDS AND STUFF FROM PRICE RANGES'''<br />
<br />
''Examples - Cheap'':<br />
<br />
Vans Authentics,Chucks/Converse, Gravis, Nike All Courts, Nike Go!, Addidas Samba, Addidas Adi Ease<br />
<br />
==High-top sneakers==</div>Aiouhhttp://tuxbell.com/index.php/SneakersSneakers2013-05-29T06:23:12Z<p>Aiouh: Created page with "==Low-top sneakers== Low-tops are extremely versatile, and a great replacement for ratty tennis shoes. They can easily be dressed up or down. These are often not too pricey. ..."</p>
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<div>==Low-top sneakers== <br />
Low-tops are extremely versatile, and a great replacement for ratty tennis shoes. They can easily be dressed up or down. These are often not too pricey. A few pairs, in mute colors like white or black, should cover your wardrobe and not break the bank. '''ADD MORE ABOUT DIFFERENT BRANDS AND STUFF FROM PRICE RANGES'''<br />
<br />
==High-top sneakers==</div>Aiouhhttp://tuxbell.com/index.php/Men%27s_BasicsMen's Basics2013-05-29T06:17:07Z<p>Aiouh: /* Shoes */</p>
<hr />
<div>New to /fa/? Come here from MFA and need to start over? Girlfriend burn your clothes? We understand.<br />
<br />
Here's where to find some wardrobe essentials on the cheap.<br />
<br />
If you are out of shape, pay a visit to [http://www.4chan.org/fit /fit/] and return when you have your ideal body.<br />
<br />
This [[Introduction]] is a '''strongly recommended''' read for ''both'' genders.<br />
<br />
== Tops ==<br />
<br />
'''T-Shirts'''<br />
<br />
You don't want tees that fit too close to the body nor tees that are too baggy. Be prepared to try a bunch of brands before you find a cut that fits you the best.<br />
Also try to figure out whether v-necks or crewnecks flatter you better. You still want to have both though.<br />
<br />
- Plenty of grey, black, and white tees. These are neutral colors that can almost be worn with anything without spending too much thought and will provide solid base to expand upon. Colours such as navy, burgundy, beige and olive are good if you are confident in being able to work them into your wardrobe.<br />
<br />
- Solid color tees in colors that suit you well. Desaturated/muted colors work well here. They generally shouldn't clash or match with your skintone. Newbies: Stick with solid color tees until you acquire a taste for what designs on a graphic shirt work.<br />
<br />
<br />
'''Shirts (Button-downs/ups)'''<br />
<br />
- For reference, button-downs and button-ups are simply referred to as "shirt" by the majority of online stores. Other shirts will often be labelled as such, e.g. tees, polos. Fit is everything here, especially in a business environment where it is difficult to stand out.<br />
<br />
- Amount varies greatly - if your job requires them, get more. DON'T BUY: black dress shirts, striped dress shirts. Trust us. White, light blue You can opt for solid colors to play it safe, go for a gingham, or another subtle pattern. Buy flannels sparingly.<br />
<br />
- There is a difference between a dress shirt and a casual shirt: For a dress shirt you will be looking for something constructed with clear shoulder seams and a stiff collar, usually with a shorter torso so that it will not create a '''puffy''' look when tucked in. Whereas for a casual shirt you will look for something with little construction that fits loosely, perhaps a size up.<br />
<br />
== Bottoms ==<br />
'''Shorts'''<br />
<br />
*Color: As a beginner you should avoid patterns and go for a solid colour, common colours are black, navy and khaki.<br />
<br />
*Length: Make sure when buying shorts that they are the right length - choose pants that are above your knee but don't show off all of your legs, a good length is 3/4 or 4/5 thigh when standing. <br />
<br />
*Fabric: Avoid denim shorts, they will always look bad unless you are named Tobias Fünke. If you are in high school they can be somewhat passable, but you must make sure they are a dark color denim and you roll them so they don't look like cut-offs<br />
<br />
'''Pants'''<br />
<br />
*Contrary to what your dad told you: you do not want pants that stack up on your shoes nor do you want pants that could fit your leg into each side twice over. Look for pants that are made with a taper that stop at an appropriate length(This would be your ankle). If you aren't able to find well fitting pants or are not able to afford the pair you find then you can take your pants to a tailor and get them altered to a perfect fit.<br />
<br />
'''Jeans'''<br />
<br />
*Jeans are very casual and shouldn't be worn anywhere other than a casual setting.<br />
<br />
*Color: Once you have your first pair of jeans you may want to expand your collection, good starter colours are black, khahki and burgundy for the more adventurous. <br />
<br />
*Skinny Jeans: If your waist is 28 and your legs are 32 you do not buy a pair of skinny jeans that are 28x32 because they will look too tight. Remember: Just because you can fit into it, doesn't mean it fits. However if tightness is what you're looking for it is advisable to try them on first. Some may be too small to even get on while others may be too loose.<br />
<br />
*[[Raw Jeans]]: these cost more, but are typically of higher quality. Pre-washed/aged jeans are usually frowned upon as it tends to look really cheap, unpersonal and fake.<br />
<br />
== Shoes ==<br />
<br />
/fa/ usually tries to keep their shoes as simple as possible design-wise. Try to avoid irritating colorways and overly confusing lines, but then again it all boils down to taste. Just remember, less is more sometimes. <br />
<br />
'''Low-top sneakers''': Low-tops are extremely versatile, and a great replacement for ratty tennis shoes. They can easily be dressed up or down. These are often not too pricey. A few pairs, in mute colors like white or black, should cover your wardrobe and not break the bank. '''ADD MORE ABOUT DIFFERENT BRANDS AND STUFF FROM PRICE RANGES'''<br />
<br />
''Examples - Cheap'':<br />
Vans Authentics,Chucks/Converse, Gravis, Nike All Courts, Nike Go!, Addidas Samba, Addidas Adi Ease<br />
<br />
'''Boots''': See the [[Boots]] page for more details. Boots are often less versatile than sneakers, but are just as vital to a wardrobe. Two pairs, one black & one brown, is a good start. Beeswax Clarks Desert Boots, while overplayed, can be a great casual boot. Decent brands include: Wolverine, Doc Martens, and [[Red Wing]].<br />
<br />
== Outerwear ==<br />
<br />
For the most part, fleece jackets and vests should be avoided as they are overdone, unstylish, and usually just bought because they are a cheaper alternative. Also try to avoid jackets with a lot of 'gearing' such as unnecessary belt straps, an excess of zippers, buttons, or straps, several pockets which would likely go unused, and very flashy designs in bright colors. THe style of jacket/coat which you may find yourself using is usually heavily influenced by the style you are attempting to use (i.e. You would not see a man into menswear wearing an oversized orange parka). For most styles, a black leather jacket works well and seems to be one of the basics for outerwear, with more styles of jackets/coats being available as the user becomes comfortable with their style and knows well what can compliment it. Pictured right is an example of an /fa/ user "doing it right". Notice how the jacket drapes yet isn't too large where he looks like a child in it. Also notice how the solid coloring doesn't conflict with the outfit below it, and in fact, compliments the color and silhouette of it. The outerwear should never conflict with the outfit underneath it and should never be the main piece of an outfit, or else when you take it off, you just become basic. <br />
<br />
When it comes to brands, don't be shy to only go for what you can afford, as outerwear can easily end up being one of the most expensive pieces in an outfit. Even though you'll find several anons who detest the name, The North Face isn't an entirely bad place to start off with outerwear, so long as you don't mind the obnoxious branding and steer clear of the over designed 20 pocket ones. To find the best, though, you may have to search if you aren't satisfied with the brands in the [[Brand Reviews]] section of the sticky as most people on /fa/ aren't too knowledgeable on the subject of what makes quality outerwear and what an appropriate price is. <br />
<br />
ADD TO THIS! <br />
<br />
Undercover makes good jackets for people with more money.<br />
<br />
== Accessories ==<br />
<br />
'''Watches'''<br />
<br />
Watches should make a welcome addition to any outfit. They will need to be simple to avoid looking tacky. e.g Nato strap watch.<br />
<br />
*Cheap: Timex Weekender, Casio F-91W<br />
<br />
'''Hats'''<br />
*[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joke A fedora is always a top priority to be stylish. Don't forget to brush up on your Japanese and wear your trench coat.]<br />
<br />
'''Necklaces'''<br />
*Necklaces are almost unanimously bad. Bracelets can work if the colours match and they aren't cheap looking (e.g. beads) but it is not advisable for a beginner.<br />
<br />
'''Glasses'''<br />
*Ray Ban.</div>Aiouhhttp://tuxbell.com/index.php/Talk:/fa/_Sticky_HomeTalk:/fa/ Sticky Home2013-05-28T14:56:57Z<p>Aiouh: /* Collapsed Text */</p>
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<div>== GENERAL SUGGESTIONS / IMPROVEMENTS / FEEDBACK ==<br />
<br />
Leave your suggestions and feedback here <br />
Free Discussion<br />
<br />
== Collapsed Text ==<br />
<br />
The collapsed introduction shouldn't really be in the Men's Basics page.<br />
<br />
Because:<br />
<br />
It's for both genders and might be easily missed by femanons<br />
It doesn't have anything to do with basics<br />
It's hideous.<br />
<br />
It should really be it's own page right below "About /fa/" in the navigation menu on the left.<br />
<br />
Does that sound like a good idea?<br />
-aiouh<br />
<br />
Somebody made an official "Introduction" page; it's now on the front page under the "things you should look at first" list. Feel free to make changes to that page.<br />
<br />
--[[User:Admin|Admin]] ([[User talk:Admin|talk]]) 10:50, 28 May 2013 (EDT)<br />
<br />
Yeah, I made the "Introduction" page because the "Men's Basics" page was too damn cluttered<br />
<br />
--aiouh</div>Aiouhhttp://tuxbell.com/index.php/Men%27s_BasicsMen's Basics2013-05-28T14:52:05Z<p>Aiouh: /* Bottoms */</p>
<hr />
<div>New to /fa/? Come here from MFA and need to start over? Girlfriend burn your clothes? We understand.<br />
<br />
Here's where to find some wardrobe essentials on the cheap.<br />
<br />
If you are out of shape, pay a visit to [http://www.4chan.org/fit /fit/] and return when you have your ideal body.<br />
<br />
This [[Introduction]] is a '''strongly recommended''' read for ''both'' genders.<br />
<br />
== Tops ==<br />
<br />
'''T-Shirts'''<br />
<br />
You don't want tees that fit too close to the body nor tees that are too baggy. Be prepared to try a bunch of brands before you find a cut that fits you the best.<br />
Also try to figure out whether v-necks or crewnecks flatter you better. You still want to have both though.<br />
<br />
- Plenty of grey, black, and white tees. These are neutral colors that can almost be worn with anything without spending too much thought and will provide solid base to expand upon. Colours such as navy, burgundy, beige and olive are good if you are confident in being able to work them into your wardrobe.<br />
<br />
- Solid color tees in colors that suit you well. Desaturated/muted colors work well here. They generally shouldn't clash or match with your skintone. Newbies: Stick with solid color tees until you acquire a taste for what designs on a graphic shirt work.<br />
<br />
<br />
'''Shirts (Button-downs/ups)'''<br />
<br />
- For reference, button-downs and button-ups are simply referred to as "shirt" by the majority of online stores. Other shirts will often be labelled as such, e.g. tees, polos. Fit is everything here, especially in a business environment where it is difficult to stand out.<br />
<br />
- Amount varies greatly - if your job requires them, get more. DON'T BUY: black dress shirts, striped dress shirts. Trust us. White, light blue You can opt for solid colors to play it safe, go for a gingham, or another subtle pattern. Buy flannels sparingly.<br />
<br />
- There is a difference between a dress shirt and a casual shirt: For a dress shirt you will be looking for something constructed with clear shoulder seams and a stiff collar, usually with a shorter torso so that it will not create a '''puffy''' look when tucked in. Whereas for a casual shirt you will look for something with little construction that fits loosely, perhaps a size up.<br />
<br />
== Bottoms ==<br />
'''Shorts'''<br />
<br />
- As a beginner you should avoid patterns and go for a solid colour, common colours are black, navy and khaki. Make sure when buying shorts that they are the right length - choose pants that are above your knee but don't show off all of your legs, a good length is 3/4 or 4/5 thigh when standing. <br />
<br />
- Avoid denim shorts, they will always look bad unless you are named Tobias Fünke. If you are in high school they can be somewhat passable, but you must make sure they are a dark color denim and you roll them so they don't look like cut-offs<br />
<br />
'''Pants'''<br />
<br />
- Contrary to what your dad told you: you do not want pants that stack up on your shoes nor do you want pants that could fit your leg into each side twice over. Look for pants that are made with a taper that stop at an appropriate length(This would be your ankle). If you aren't able to find well fitting pants or are not able to afford the pair you find then you can take your pants to a tailor and get them altered to a perfect fit.<br />
<br />
'''Jeans'''<br />
<br />
- Jeans are very casual and shouldn't be worn anywhere other than a casual setting.<br />
<br />
- Once you have your first pair of jeans you may want to expand your collection, good starter colours are black, khahki and burgundy for the more adventurous. <br />
<br />
- If your waist is 28 and your legs are 32 you do not buy a pair of skinny jeans that are 28x32 because they will look too tight. Remember: Just because you can fit into it, doesn't mean it fits.<br />
<br />
- Pre-washed/aged jeans are usually frowned upon as it tends to look really cheap, unpersonal and fake.<br />
<br />
== Shoes ==<br />
<br />
'''Low-top sneakers''': Low-tops are extremely versatile, and a great replacement for ratty tennis shoes. They can easily be dressed up or down. These are often not too pricey. A few pairs, in mute colors like white or black, should cover your wardrobe and not break the bank. '''ADD MORE ABOUT DIFFERENT BRANDS AND STUFF FROM PRICE RANGES'''<br />
<br />
'''Boots''': See the [[Boots]] page for more details. Boots are often less versatile than sneakers, but are just as vital to a wardrobe. Two pairs, one black & one brown, is a good start. Beeswax Clarks Desert Boots, while overplayed, can be a great casual boot. Decent brands include: Wolverine, Doc Martens, and [[Red Wing]].<br />
<br />
== Outerwear ==<br />
<br />
Don't get North Face, just don't<br />
<br />
ADD TO THIS! <br />
<br />
Undercover makes good jackets for people with more money.<br />
== Accessories ==<br />
[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joke A fedora is always a top priority to be stylish. Don't forget to brush up on your Japanese and wear your trench coat.]</div>Aiouhhttp://tuxbell.com/index.php/User:AiouhUser:Aiouh2013-05-27T22:04:59Z<p>Aiouh: </p>
<hr />
<div>Minor shitty /fa/ namefriend<br />
<br />
GMT+1 Europe, Asian(Manchu w/ nomad square jaw), well-kempt basic bitch<br />
<br />
aiouh.tumblr.com</div>Aiouhhttp://tuxbell.com/index.php/User:AiouhUser:Aiouh2013-05-27T22:04:06Z<p>Aiouh: Created page with "Minor shitty /fa/ namefriend GMT+1 Europe, Asian, well-kempt basic bitch aiouh.tumblr.com"</p>
<hr />
<div>Minor shitty /fa/ namefriend<br />
<br />
GMT+1 Europe, Asian, well-kempt basic bitch<br />
<br />
aiouh.tumblr.com</div>Aiouhhttp://tuxbell.com/index.php/Men%27s_BasicsMen's Basics2013-05-27T21:28:21Z<p>Aiouh: </p>
<hr />
<div>New to /fa/? Come here from MFA and need to start over? Girlfriend burn your clothes? We understand.<br />
<br />
Here's where to find some wardrobe essentials on the cheap.<br />
<br />
If you are out of shape, pay a visit to [http://www.4chan.org/fit /fit/] and return when you have your ideal body.<br />
<br />
This [[Introduction]] is a '''strongly recommended''' read for ''both'' genders.<br />
<br />
== Tops ==<br />
<br />
'''T-Shirts'''<br />
<br />
You don't want tees that fit too close to the body nor tees that are too baggy. Be prepared to try a bunch of brands before you find a cut that fits you the best.<br />
Also try to figure out whether v-necks or crewnecks flatter you better. You still want to have both though.<br />
<br />
- Plenty of grey, black, and white tees. These are neutral colors that can almost be worn with anything without spending too much thought and will provide solid base to expand upon.<br />
<br />
- Solid color tees in colors that suit you well. Desaturated/muted colors work well here. They generally shouldn't clash or match with your skintone. Newbies: Stick with solid color tees until you acquire a taste for what designs on a graphic shirt work.<br />
<br />
<br />
'''Shirts (Button-downs/ups)'''<br />
<br />
-For reference, button-downs and button-ups are simply referred to as "shirt" by the majority of online stores. Other shirts will often be labelled as such, e.g. tees, polos. Fit is everything here, especially in a business environment where it is difficult to stand out.<br />
<br />
- Amount varies greatly - if your job requires them, get more. DON'T BUY: black dress shirts, striped dress shirts. Trust us. White, light blue You can opt for solid colors to play it safe, go for a gingham, or another subtle pattern. Buy flannels sparingly.<br />
<br />
== Bottoms ==<br />
<br />
== Shoes ==<br />
<br />
'''Low-top sneakers''': Low-tops are extremely versatile, and a great replacement for ratty tennis shoes. They can easily be dressed up or down. These are often not too pricey. A few pairs, in mute colors like white or black, should cover your wardrobe and not break the bank.<br />
<br />
'''Boots''': See the [[Boots]] page for more details. Boots are often less versatile than sneakers, but are just as vital to a wardrobe. Two pairs, one black & one brown, is a good start. Beeswax Clarks Desert Boots, while overplayed, can be a great casual boot. Decent brands include: Wolverine, Doc Martens, and [[Red Wing]].<br />
<br />
== Outerwear ==<br />
<br />
== Accessories ==<br />
[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joke A fedora is always a top priority to be stylish. Don't forget to brush up on your Japanese and wear your trench coat.]</div>Aiouhhttp://tuxbell.com/index.php/Men%27s_BasicsMen's Basics2013-05-27T21:27:49Z<p>Aiouh: </p>
<hr />
<div>New to /fa/? Come here from MFA and need to start over? Girlfriend burn your clothes? We understand.<br />
<br />
Here's where to find some wardrobe essentials on the cheap.<br />
<br />
If you are out of shape, pay a visit to [http://www.4chan.org/fit /fit/] and return when you have your ideal body.<br />
<br />
This [[Introduction]] is a '''strongly recommended''' read.<br />
<br />
<br />
== Tops ==<br />
<br />
'''T-Shirts'''<br />
<br />
You don't want tees that fit too close to the body nor tees that are too baggy. Be prepared to try a bunch of brands before you find a cut that fits you the best.<br />
Also try to figure out whether v-necks or crewnecks flatter you better. You still want to have both though.<br />
<br />
- Plenty of grey, black, and white tees. These are neutral colors that can almost be worn with anything without spending too much thought and will provide solid base to expand upon.<br />
<br />
- Solid color tees in colors that suit you well. Desaturated/muted colors work well here. They generally shouldn't clash or match with your skintone. Newbies: Stick with solid color tees until you acquire a taste for what designs on a graphic shirt work.<br />
<br />
<br />
'''Shirts (Button-downs/ups)'''<br />
<br />
-For reference, button-downs and button-ups are simply referred to as "shirt" by the majority of online stores. Other shirts will often be labelled as such, e.g. tees, polos. Fit is everything here, especially in a business environment where it is difficult to stand out.<br />
<br />
- Amount varies greatly - if your job requires them, get more. DON'T BUY: black dress shirts, striped dress shirts. Trust us. White, light blue You can opt for solid colors to play it safe, go for a gingham, or another subtle pattern. Buy flannels sparingly.<br />
<br />
== Bottoms ==<br />
<br />
== Shoes ==<br />
<br />
'''Low-top sneakers''': Low-tops are extremely versatile, and a great replacement for ratty tennis shoes. They can easily be dressed up or down. These are often not too pricey. A few pairs, in mute colors like white or black, should cover your wardrobe and not break the bank.<br />
<br />
'''Boots''': See the [[Boots]] page for more details. Boots are often less versatile than sneakers, but are just as vital to a wardrobe. Two pairs, one black & one brown, is a good start. Beeswax Clarks Desert Boots, while overplayed, can be a great casual boot. Decent brands include: Wolverine, Doc Martens, and [[Red Wing]].<br />
<br />
== Outerwear ==<br />
<br />
== Accessories ==<br />
[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joke A fedora is always a top priority to be stylish. Don't forget to brush up on your Japanese and wear your trench coat.]</div>Aiouhhttp://tuxbell.com/index.php/IntroductionIntroduction2013-05-27T21:26:37Z<p>Aiouh: </p>
<hr />
<div>'''ALL I WANT TO PROVIDE IS SOME CONTEXT AND INTRODUCTION TO THE FACT THAT FASHION IS MUCH MORE THAN JUST PUTTING OUTFITS TOGETHER AND LOOKING GOOD AND BRANDS AND BUYING THINGS'''<br />
<br />
'''*People seem to forget that /fa/ is a board on 4CHAN. So take a step back from time to time and make your own decisions. You want advice but you don’t want to listen to everything that everyone tells you to do. This also applies to what I'm about to tell you. Read it and decide for yourself what you agree with and disagree with, I am just putting my thoughts out here so that more people have access to things that they aren't told when they first begin. You WILL make mistakes; don’t try to listen to everyone here all the time. If you like it and it seems like a good purchase at the time, then go for it. You learn the most from mistakes. This is about developing YOUR understanding of fashion.'''<br />
<br />
Before jumping into the world of fashion, take a step back and honestly evaluate yourself. Are there certain features of yours that you can improve right now? Could you use a bit of exercise and lose some weight? Do you need to clean up your skin a bit? If you wear glasses, do you look better with or without them? Could you pick up some better looking frames? Is your hair unmanageable and / or awkward? Do you need to improve your social skills a bit?<br />
<br />
After you’ve roughly evaluated yourself and your features, I personally would advise you to clean yourself up as much as you can afford to right now. I’m not saying everyone should buy a gym pass or go to the dermatologist and come back after a makeover or anything; the purpose of this is to identify areas that you haven’t really been putting much care into. Maybe you can start eating a bit healthier, going on some runs, do some push ups and sit ups at home, make an effort to establish a consistent skincare routine, and whatever else. <br />
<br />
Why am I asking you to do these things? Think of it like this: When painting a beautiful picture, ideally you would want to paint on the cleanest, best quality canvas available. So by improving your weaknesses, you are building a more solid foundation to “paint” upon. Besides, it takes a while to learn and actually start developing taste, so why wouldn’t you improve yourself before and during the beginning of your journey? Little tweaks and fixes and whatnot can be made along the way as well. <br />
<br />
Ok, so you’re content with your features now. Where do you start? I should go look at these guides and info graphs and ask other people what to buy right?<br />
Nope, sorry but you’re going to have to do a bit more self reflection. What do you want out of fashion right now? Do you want to just look presentable / average? Were you inspired by people in nice clothing (Movies, Advertisements, and Celebrities etc) and want to dress very well? Do you want fashion to be a part of your lifestyle and meet more people? None of these are bad or wrong, and will most likely change along the way but just ask yourself what you want it to be right here, right now at this point in your life. Something we all need to realise and constantly remind ourselves of is,<br />
<br />
'''FASHION IS DIFFERENT FOR EVERYONE. EVERYONE PARTAKES IN IT FOR DIFFERENT REASONS AND NOT EVERYONE IS AT THE SAME POINT ALONG THEIR JOURNEY. SOME DECIDE TO STOP ALTOGETHER AND BE CONTENT WITH WHAT THEY’VE ACHIEVED, AND THAT’S OK. SOME SEEK TO GO ABOVE AND BEYOND THE NORM TO A POINT WHERE NOT EVERYONE EVEN WITHIN FASHION WILL UNDERSTAND IT.'''<br />
<br />
However you want to approach fashion, it is important to always keep an open mind. In my opinion, to be a truly fashionable person you not only have to look great but have a “fashionable” mentality. There will probably come a point where you think you’re getting the hang of things and start looking down on or judging the way others dress. If you find yourself doing this then remind yourself of the statement above. Again, I’m not telling you to be like Buddha and be accepting of everything and be neutral and at peace with everything. It’s just that personally I’ve found myself being biased a lot of the time, and reminding myself of that fact and then applying it to the context of what I’m thinking of leads to new ways of looking at things. Another important thing, you also have to be able to represent your image with confidence. Personally I’ve found that when dressing in a manner that is true to your background, beliefs, and taste, confidence naturally follows. This doesn’t mean that you won’t feel out of place or insecure when trying new things and wearing them outside, it just means that you will get used to it.<br />
<br />
'''This is all the general fashion "philosophy"? Advice I have right now, feel free to edit grammar etc. Started writing a general "How to actually start buying stuff" section below but wasn't sure how to approach it in a broad manner so that I'm not telling people YOU NEED TO DO X Y AND Z AND A B AND C THEN U WILL B DRESS WELL LOL so yeah give it a read and suggest improvements plz:'''<br />
<br />
Well now you need to put your basic knowledge to use and actually buy some clothes. If you are just an average guy who isn’t heavily influenced by styles stemming from subcultures, (Musical genres, hobbies and whatnot) chances are you will be drawn to traditional menswear or streetwear. Educate yourself on what the general “styles” look like (Note: While they are different and unique in their own ways, don’t segregate or just stick to one religiously, some people think fashion is some kind of RPG where you need to choose your race or some shit and dress either “menswear”, “streetwear”, or “avant garde” when it’s about building your own style based on what you like, drawing inspiration from many things like your personal experiences and influences.) and also look at brands through the brands and stores pages so you have an idea of what is accessible near you irl and what kind of stuff they sell. <br />
<br />
When you have a general idea of what you want to look like, go out and try things on. Walk into a store and grab whatever you like and try them on. The way it fits is one of the most important factors. As you look at more and more pictures you will naturally be able to distinguish a good fit vs a bad fit. Some things to take into consideration when making a purchase is: 1. Can the piece can be well incorporated into the rest of your current wardrobe? 2. Do you truly like it and aren’t being heavily influenced by sales or marketing strategies?</div>Aiouhhttp://tuxbell.com/index.php/IntroductionIntroduction2013-05-27T21:25:29Z<p>Aiouh: Created page with " ALL I WANT TO PROVIDE IS SOME CONTEXT AND INTRODUCTION TO THE FACT THAT FASHION IS MUCH MORE THAN JUST PUTTING OUTFITS TOGETHER AND LOOKING GOOD AND BRANDS AND BUYING THINGS..."</p>
<hr />
<div><br />
<br />
ALL I WANT TO PROVIDE IS SOME CONTEXT AND INTRODUCTION TO THE FACT THAT FASHION IS MUCH MORE THAN JUST PUTTING OUTFITS TOGETHER AND LOOKING GOOD AND BRANDS AND BUYING THINGS<br />
<br />
*People seem to forget that /fa/ is a board on 4CHAN. So take a step back from time to time and make your own decisions. You want advice but you don’t want to listen to everything that everyone tells you to do. This also applies to what I'm about to tell you. Read it and decide for yourself what you agree with and disagree with, I am just putting my thoughts out here so that more people have access to things that they aren't told when they first begin. You WILL make mistakes; don’t try to listen to everyone here all the time. If you like it and it seems like a good purchase at the time, then go for it. You learn the most from mistakes. This is about developing YOUR understanding of fashion.<br />
<br />
Before jumping into the world of fashion, take a step back and honestly evaluate yourself. Are there certain features of yours that you can improve right now? Could you use a bit of exercise and lose some weight? Do you need to clean up your skin a bit? If you wear glasses, do you look better with or without them? Could you pick up some better looking frames? Is your hair unmanageable and / or awkward? Do you need to improve your social skills a bit?<br />
<br />
After you’ve roughly evaluated yourself and your features, I personally would advise you to clean yourself up as much as you can afford to right now. I’m not saying everyone should buy a gym pass or go to the dermatologist and come back after a makeover or anything; the purpose of this is to identify areas that you haven’t really been putting much care into. Maybe you can start eating a bit healthier, going on some runs, do some push ups and sit ups at home, make an effort to establish a consistent skincare routine, and whatever else.<br />
<br />
Why am I asking you to do these things? Think of it like this: When painting a beautiful picture, ideally you would want to paint on the cleanest, best quality canvas available. So by improving your weaknesses, you are building a more solid foundation to “paint” upon. Besides, it takes a while to learn and actually start developing taste, so why wouldn’t you improve yourself before and during the beginning of your journey? Little tweaks and fixes and whatnot can be made along the way as well.<br />
<br />
Ok, so you’re content with your features now. Where do you start? I should go look at these guides and info graphs and ask other people what to buy right? Nope, sorry but you’re going to have to do a bit more self reflection. What do you want out of fashion right now? Do you want to just look presentable / average? Were you inspired by people in nice clothing (Movies, Advertisements, and Celebrities etc) and want to dress very well? Do you want fashion to be a part of your lifestyle and meet more people? None of these are bad or wrong, and will most likely change along the way but just ask yourself what you want it to be right here, right now at this point in your life. Something we all need to realise and constantly remind ourselves of is,<br />
<br />
FASHION IS DIFFERENT FOR EVERYONE. EVERYONE PARTAKES IN IT FOR DIFFERENT REASONS AND NOT EVERYONE IS AT THE SAME POINT ALONG THEIR JOURNEY. SOME DECIDE TO STOP ALTOGETHER AND BE CONTENT WITH WHAT THEY’VE ACHIEVED, AND THAT’S OK. SOME SEEK TO GO ABOVE AND BEYOND THE NORM TO A POINT WHERE NOT EVERYONE EVEN WITHIN FASHION WILL UNDERSTAND IT.<br />
<br />
However you want to approach fashion, it is important to always keep an open mind. In my opinion, to be a truly fashionable person you not only have to look great but have a “fashionable” mentality. There will probably come a point where you think you’re getting the hang of things and start looking down on or judging the way others dress. If you find yourself doing this then remind yourself of the statement above. Again, I’m not telling you to be like Buddha and be accepting of everything and be neutral and at peace with everything. It’s just that personally I’ve found myself being biased a lot of the time, and reminding myself of that fact and then applying it to the context of what I’m thinking of leads to new ways of looking at things. Another important thing, you also have to be able to represent your image with confidence. Personally I’ve found that when dressing in a manner that is true to your background, beliefs, and taste, confidence naturally follows. This doesn’t mean that you won’t feel out of place or insecure when trying new things and wearing them outside, it just means that you will get used to it.<br />
<br />
This is all the general fashion "philosophy"? Advice I have right now, feel free to edit grammar etc. Started writing a general "How to actually start buying stuff" section below but wasn't sure how to approach it in a broad manner so that I'm not telling people YOU NEED TO DO X Y AND Z AND A B AND C THEN U WILL B DRESS WELL LOL so yeah give it a read and suggest improvements plz:<br />
<br />
Well now you need to put your basic knowledge to use and actually buy some clothes. If you are just an average guy who isn’t heavily influenced by styles stemming from subcultures, (Musical genres, hobbies and whatnot) chances are you will be drawn to traditional menswear or streetwear. Educate yourself on what the general “styles” look like (Note: While they are different and unique in their own ways, don’t segregate or just stick to one religiously, some people think fashion is some kind of RPG where you need to choose your race or some shit and dress either “menswear”, “streetwear”, or “avant garde” when it’s about building your own style based on what you like, drawing inspiration from many things like your personal experiences and influences.) and also look at brands through the brands and stores pages so you have an idea of what is accessible near you irl and what kind of stuff they sell.<br />
<br />
When you have a general idea of what you want to look like, go out and try things on. Walk into a store and grab whatever you like and try them on. The way it fits is one of the most important factors. As you look at more and more pictures you will naturally be able to distinguish a good fit vs a bad fit. Some things to take into consideration when making a purchase is: 1. Can the piece can be well incorporated into the rest of your current wardrobe? 2. Do you truly like it and aren’t being heavily influenced by sales or marketing strategies?</div>Aiouhhttp://tuxbell.com/index.php/GroomingGrooming2013-05-27T21:20:26Z<p>Aiouh: /* Other Resources */</p>
<hr />
<div>I wanted to make a "haircut" section, but figured it would be too narrow. Info on haircuts, facial hair, skin care, or any other kind of bodily maintenance goes here.<br />
<br />
Change the titles or something, I was bored of making bland titles.<br />
<br />
== No Poo ==<br />
<br />
<br />
== Go To A Fucking Barber ==<br />
<br />
No matter how awesome and crafty you think you are, never attempt to cut your own hair alone. Learn with a professional if you want to save on salon money, it's well worth it (and then you don't have to go to the salon anyway when you fuck up). Mike is a wizard, do not be led astray by his ways by just watching his video once or twice.<br />
<br />
Do not attempt unless you are VERY desperate or okay with looking like a total dork in the learning process.<br />
<br />
=== Self-dyeing ===<br />
Never dye by yourself. Results in rashes, skin peeling of, etc. Besides, getting an even tone all over is one of the hardest tasks for colourists.<br />
<br />
== Skin-care Basics ==<br />
<br />
A skin-care regimen is necessary for healthy skin consists of:<br />
<br />
=== Cleanser/Face wash ===<br />
This cleans your face. duh.<br />
<br />
=== Exfoliator ===<br />
<br />
This removes dead skin and make-up stuck in your pores. Slows aging process.<br />
Entirely '''optional''' for men, still recommended though.<br />
Especially if you have blemishes.<br />
You don't want to exfoliate too much though or your skin ends up looking like gritting paper. 2-4 times a week just before sleeping is usually fine.<br />
<br />
=== Moisturizer ===<br />
<br />
This keeps your face moist. duh.<br />
<br />
=== Notes ===<br />
Apply in the order listed two times a day. After you wake up and before you go to sleep, preferrably.<br />
<br />
You can cheap out on cleansers, but try to buy a good moisturizer that matches your skin type.<br />
Always try to avoid alcohol in your face products.<br />
<br />
Contrary to popular belief and marketing, women's skincare products do not automatically turn you into a FLAMING HOMOGAY although some of you might want to stay away from tinted and/or scented creams.<br />
But you can alternatively use skincare products for MANLY MEN made out of MOTOR OIL scented with BBQ sauce if you feel like paying the markup those products to preserve your precious HETEROSEXUALITY.<br />
<br />
==Acne Treatment==<br />
<br />
=== Occam's Acne ===<br />
There is beauty in simplicity with skincare. Wash your face a few times a day with a mild cleanser. Drinking enough water and eating healthy is possibly the best thing you can do for your skin (and body). Sleeping with a clean towel over your pillow each night (or washing your pillowcase weekly) also works wonders. For those whose faces refuse to clear up, consider the following treatments.<br />
<br />
=== Benzoyl Peroxide ===<br />
<br />
=== Salicylic Acid ===<br />
Get some SA based cream to exfoliate your skin and cleanse your pores. In case you're a poorfag or in a hurry, put an aspirin on a cotton ball, cup water into hand and lightly soak the pill and cotton. After one minute or so, it should crumble to the lightest touch. Apply to face (specific area), tape with bandage for 1 or 2 hours and it should do the trick. You can also mix crumbled aspirin to different ingredients (honey, milk, coconut oil, etc) and make a full face exfoliating scrub. Google ingredients for desired effects.<br />
<br />
=== When All Else Fails ===<br />
<br />
Talk to a dermatologist if the above suggestions do not work for you. He or she can give you various options. A common solutions to severe cystic acne is accutane. There are also other treatments for other cases of stubborn acne.<br />
<br />
== Shave That Beard ==<br />
Or don't, what ever. Some men fit (maybe even need) a beard, and some do not. Just remember beards, like all hair on our body, keeps dirt and oil even closer to our skin. Unless you take care of it and wash it properly, it'll end up like the Amazon Forest: dark, damp, with high chances of encounters with animals.<br />
<br />
== Miscellaneous ==<br />
<br />
Other shit.<br />
<br />
== Other Resources ==<br />
<br />
[[Face Shape]]</div>Aiouhhttp://tuxbell.com/index.php/GroomingGrooming2013-05-27T21:15:00Z<p>Aiouh: /* Notes */</p>
<hr />
<div>I wanted to make a "haircut" section, but figured it would be too narrow. Info on haircuts, facial hair, skin care, or any other kind of bodily maintenance goes here.<br />
<br />
Change the titles or something, I was bored of making bland titles.<br />
<br />
== No Poo ==<br />
<br />
<br />
== Go To A Fucking Barber ==<br />
<br />
No matter how awesome and crafty you think you are, never attempt to cut your own hair alone. Learn with a professional if you want to save on salon money, it's well worth it (and then you don't have to go to the salon anyway when you fuck up). Mike is a wizard, do not be led astray by his ways by just watching his video once or twice.<br />
<br />
Do not attempt unless you are VERY desperate or okay with looking like a total dork in the learning process.<br />
<br />
=== Self-dyeing ===<br />
Never dye by yourself. Results in rashes, skin peeling of, etc. Besides, getting an even tone all over is one of the hardest tasks for colourists.<br />
<br />
== Skin-care Basics ==<br />
<br />
A skin-care regimen is necessary for healthy skin consists of:<br />
<br />
=== Cleanser/Face wash ===<br />
This cleans your face. duh.<br />
<br />
=== Exfoliator ===<br />
<br />
This removes dead skin and make-up stuck in your pores. Slows aging process.<br />
Entirely '''optional''' for men, still recommended though.<br />
Especially if you have blemishes.<br />
You don't want to exfoliate too much though or your skin ends up looking like gritting paper. 2-4 times a week just before sleeping is usually fine.<br />
<br />
=== Moisturizer ===<br />
<br />
This keeps your face moist. duh.<br />
<br />
=== Notes ===<br />
Apply in the order listed two times a day. After you wake up and before you go to sleep, preferrably.<br />
<br />
You can cheap out on cleansers, but try to buy a good moisturizer that matches your skin type.<br />
Always try to avoid alcohol in your face products.<br />
<br />
Contrary to popular belief and marketing, women's skincare products do not automatically turn you into a FLAMING HOMOGAY although some of you might want to stay away from tinted and/or scented creams.<br />
But you can alternatively use skincare products for MANLY MEN made out of MOTOR OIL scented with BBQ sauce if you feel like paying the markup those products to preserve your precious HETEROSEXUALITY.<br />
<br />
==Acne Treatment==<br />
<br />
=== Occam's Acne ===<br />
There is beauty in simplicity with skincare. Wash your face a few times a day with a mild cleanser. Drinking enough water and eating healthy is possibly the best thing you can do for your skin (and body). Sleeping with a clean towel over your pillow each night (or washing your pillowcase weekly) also works wonders. For those whose faces refuse to clear up, consider the following treatments.<br />
<br />
=== Benzoyl Peroxide ===<br />
<br />
=== Salicylic Acid ===<br />
Get some SA based cream to exfoliate your skin and cleanse your pores. In case you're a poorfag or in a hurry, put an aspirin on a cotton ball, cup water into hand and lightly soak the pill and cotton. After one minute or so, it should crumble to the lightest touch. Apply to face (specific area), tape with bandage for 1 or 2 hours and it should do the trick. You can also mix crumbled aspirin to different ingredients (honey, milk, coconut oil, etc) and make a full face exfoliating scrub. Google ingredients for desired effects.<br />
<br />
=== When All Else Fails ===<br />
<br />
Talk to a dermatologist if the above suggestions do not work for you. He or she can give you various options. A common solutions to severe cystic acne is accutane. There are also other treatments for other cases of stubborn acne.<br />
<br />
== Shave That Beard ==<br />
Or don't, what ever. Some men fit (maybe even need) a beard, and some do not. Just remember beards, like all hair on our body, keeps dirt and oil even closer to our skin. Unless you take care of it and wash it properly, it'll end up like the Amazon Forest: dark, damp, with high chances of encounters with animals.<br />
<br />
== Miscellaneous ==<br />
<br />
Other shit.<br />
<br />
== Other Resources ==<br />
<br />
[[Face Shape</div>Aiouhhttp://tuxbell.com/index.php/GroomingGrooming2013-05-27T21:14:21Z<p>Aiouh: /* Skin-care Basics */</p>
<hr />
<div>I wanted to make a "haircut" section, but figured it would be too narrow. Info on haircuts, facial hair, skin care, or any other kind of bodily maintenance goes here.<br />
<br />
Change the titles or something, I was bored of making bland titles.<br />
<br />
== No Poo ==<br />
<br />
<br />
== Go To A Fucking Barber ==<br />
<br />
No matter how awesome and crafty you think you are, never attempt to cut your own hair alone. Learn with a professional if you want to save on salon money, it's well worth it (and then you don't have to go to the salon anyway when you fuck up). Mike is a wizard, do not be led astray by his ways by just watching his video once or twice.<br />
<br />
Do not attempt unless you are VERY desperate or okay with looking like a total dork in the learning process.<br />
<br />
=== Self-dyeing ===<br />
Never dye by yourself. Results in rashes, skin peeling of, etc. Besides, getting an even tone all over is one of the hardest tasks for colourists.<br />
<br />
== Skin-care Basics ==<br />
<br />
A skin-care regimen is necessary for healthy skin consists of:<br />
<br />
=== Cleanser/Face wash ===<br />
This cleans your face. duh.<br />
<br />
=== Exfoliator ===<br />
<br />
This removes dead skin and make-up stuck in your pores. Slows aging process.<br />
Entirely '''optional''' for men, still recommended though.<br />
Especially if you have blemishes.<br />
You don't want to exfoliate too much though or your skin ends up looking like gritting paper. 2-4 times a week just before sleeping is usually fine.<br />
<br />
=== Moisturizer ===<br />
<br />
This keeps your face moist. duh.<br />
<br />
=== Notes ===<br />
Apply in the order listed two times a day.<br />
You can cheap out on cleansers, but try to buy a good moisturizer that matches your skin type.<br />
Always try to avoid alcohol in your face products.<br />
<br />
Contrary to popular belief and marketing, women's skincare products do not automatically turn you into a FLAMING HOMOGAY although some of you might want to stay away from tinted and/or scented creams.<br />
But you can alternatively use skincare products for MANLY MEN made out of MOTOR OIL scented with BBQ sauce if you feel like paying the markup those products to preserve your precious HETEROSEXUALITY.<br />
<br />
==Acne Treatment==<br />
<br />
=== Occam's Acne ===<br />
There is beauty in simplicity with skincare. Wash your face a few times a day with a mild cleanser. Drinking enough water and eating healthy is possibly the best thing you can do for your skin (and body). Sleeping with a clean towel over your pillow each night (or washing your pillowcase weekly) also works wonders. For those whose faces refuse to clear up, consider the following treatments.<br />
<br />
=== Benzoyl Peroxide ===<br />
<br />
=== Salicylic Acid ===<br />
Get some SA based cream to exfoliate your skin and cleanse your pores. In case you're a poorfag or in a hurry, put an aspirin on a cotton ball, cup water into hand and lightly soak the pill and cotton. After one minute or so, it should crumble to the lightest touch. Apply to face (specific area), tape with bandage for 1 or 2 hours and it should do the trick. You can also mix crumbled aspirin to different ingredients (honey, milk, coconut oil, etc) and make a full face exfoliating scrub. Google ingredients for desired effects.<br />
<br />
=== When All Else Fails ===<br />
<br />
Talk to a dermatologist if the above suggestions do not work for you. He or she can give you various options. A common solutions to severe cystic acne is accutane. There are also other treatments for other cases of stubborn acne.<br />
<br />
== Shave That Beard ==<br />
Or don't, what ever. Some men fit (maybe even need) a beard, and some do not. Just remember beards, like all hair on our body, keeps dirt and oil even closer to our skin. Unless you take care of it and wash it properly, it'll end up like the Amazon Forest: dark, damp, with high chances of encounters with animals.<br />
<br />
== Miscellaneous ==<br />
<br />
Other shit.<br />
<br />
== Other Resources ==<br />
<br />
[[Face Shape</div>Aiouhhttp://tuxbell.com/index.php/GroomingGrooming2013-05-27T21:08:26Z<p>Aiouh: /* The Hitler Youth and You */</p>
<hr />
<div>I wanted to make a "haircut" section, but figured it would be too narrow. Info on haircuts, facial hair, skin care, or any other kind of bodily maintenance goes here.<br />
<br />
Change the titles or something, I was bored of making bland titles.<br />
<br />
== No Poo ==<br />
<br />
<br />
== Go To A Fucking Barber ==<br />
<br />
No matter how awesome and crafty you think you are, never attempt to cut your own hair alone. Learn with a professional if you want to save on salon money, it's well worth it (and then you don't have to go to the salon anyway when you fuck up). Mike is a wizard, do not be led astray by his ways by just watching his video once or twice.<br />
<br />
Do not attempt unless you are VERY desperate or okay with looking like a total dork in the learning process.<br />
<br />
=== Self-dyeing ===<br />
Never dye by yourself. Results in rashes, skin peeling of, etc. Besides, getting an even tone all over is one of the hardest tasks for colourists.<br />
<br />
== Skin-care Basics ==<br />
<br />
A skin-care regimen is necessary for healthy skin consists of:<br />
<br />
-Cleanser/Face wash<br />
This cleans your face. duh.<br />
<br />
-Exfoliator<br />
This removes dead skin and make-up stuck in your pores. Slows aging process.<br />
Entirely optional for men, still recommended though.<br />
Especially if you have blemishes.<br />
You don't want to exfoliate too much though or your skin ends up looking like gritting paper. 2-4 times a week just before sleeping is usually fine.<br />
<br />
-Moisturizer <br />
This keeps your face moist. duh.<br />
<br />
Apply in the order listed two times a day.<br />
You can cheap out on cleansers, but try to buy a good moisturizer that matches your skin type.<br />
Always try to avoid alcohol in your face products.<br />
<br />
==Acne Treatment==<br />
<br />
=== Occam's Acne ===<br />
There is beauty in simplicity with skincare. Wash your face a few times a day with a mild cleanser. Drinking enough water and eating healthy is possibly the best thing you can do for your skin (and body). Sleeping with a clean towel over your pillow each night (or washing your pillowcase weekly) also works wonders. For those whose faces refuse to clear up, consider the following treatments.<br />
<br />
=== Benzoyl Peroxide ===<br />
<br />
=== Salicylic Acid ===<br />
Get some SA based cream to exfoliate your skin and cleanse your pores. In case you're a poorfag or in a hurry, put an aspirin on a cotton ball, cup water into hand and lightly soak the pill and cotton. After one minute or so, it should crumble to the lightest touch. Apply to face (specific area), tape with bandage for 1 or 2 hours and it should do the trick. You can also mix crumbled aspirin to different ingredients (honey, milk, coconut oil, etc) and make a full face exfoliating scrub. Google ingredients for desired effects.<br />
<br />
=== When All Else Fails ===<br />
<br />
Talk to a dermatologist if the above suggestions do not work for you. He or she can give you various options. A common solutions to severe cystic acne is accutane. There are also other treatments for other cases of stubborn acne.<br />
<br />
== Shave That Beard ==<br />
Or don't, what ever. Some men fit (maybe even need) a beard, and some do not. Just remember beards, like all hair on our body, keeps dirt and oil even closer to our skin. Unless you take care of it and wash it properly, it'll end up like the Amazon Forest: dark, damp, with high chances of encounters with animals.<br />
<br />
== Miscellaneous ==<br />
<br />
Other shit.<br />
<br />
== Other Resources ==<br />
<br />
[[Face Shape</div>Aiouhhttp://tuxbell.com/index.php/GroomingGrooming2013-05-27T21:05:46Z<p>Aiouh: /* Skin-care For Pizza Face */</p>
<hr />
<div>I wanted to make a "haircut" section, but figured it would be too narrow. Info on haircuts, facial hair, skin care, or any other kind of bodily maintenance goes here.<br />
<br />
Change the titles or something, I was bored of making bland titles.<br />
<br />
== No Poo ==<br />
<br />
<br />
== The Hitler Youth and You ==<br />
<br />
No matter how awesome and crafty you think you are, never attempt to cut your own hair alone. Learn with a professional if you want to save on salon money, it's well worth it (and then you don't have to go to the salon anyway when you fuck up).<br />
<br />
Never dye by yourself. Results in rashes, skin peeling of, etc. Besides, getting an even tone all over is one of the hardest tasks for colourists.<br />
<br />
== Skin-care Basics ==<br />
<br />
A skin-care regimen is necessary for healthy skin consists of:<br />
<br />
-Cleanser/Face wash<br />
This cleans your face. duh.<br />
<br />
-Exfoliator<br />
This removes dead skin and make-up stuck in your pores. Slows aging process.<br />
Entirely optional for men, still recommended though.<br />
Especially if you have blemishes.<br />
You don't want to exfoliate too much though or your skin ends up looking like gritting paper. 2-4 times a week just before sleeping is usually fine.<br />
<br />
-Moisturizer <br />
This keeps your face moist. duh.<br />
<br />
Apply in the order listed two times a day.<br />
You can cheap out on cleansers, but try to buy a good moisturizer that matches your skin type.<br />
Always try to avoid alcohol in your face products.<br />
<br />
==Acne Treatment==<br />
<br />
=== Occam's Acne ===<br />
There is beauty in simplicity with skincare. Wash your face a few times a day with a mild cleanser. Drinking enough water and eating healthy is possibly the best thing you can do for your skin (and body). Sleeping with a clean towel over your pillow each night (or washing your pillowcase weekly) also works wonders. For those whose faces refuse to clear up, consider the following treatments.<br />
<br />
=== Benzoyl Peroxide ===<br />
<br />
=== Salicylic Acid ===<br />
Get some SA based cream to exfoliate your skin and cleanse your pores. In case you're a poorfag or in a hurry, put an aspirin on a cotton ball, cup water into hand and lightly soak the pill and cotton. After one minute or so, it should crumble to the lightest touch. Apply to face (specific area), tape with bandage for 1 or 2 hours and it should do the trick. You can also mix crumbled aspirin to different ingredients (honey, milk, coconut oil, etc) and make a full face exfoliating scrub. Google ingredients for desired effects.<br />
<br />
=== When All Else Fails ===<br />
<br />
Talk to a dermatologist if the above suggestions do not work for you. He or she can give you various options. A common solutions to severe cystic acne is accutane. There are also other treatments for other cases of stubborn acne.<br />
<br />
== Shave That Beard ==<br />
Or don't, what ever. Some men fit (maybe even need) a beard, and some do not. Just remember beards, like all hair on our body, keeps dirt and oil even closer to our skin. Unless you take care of it and wash it properly, it'll end up like the Amazon Forest: dark, damp, with high chances of encounters with animals.<br />
<br />
== Miscellaneous ==<br />
<br />
Other shit.<br />
<br />
== Other Resources ==<br />
<br />
[[Face Shape</div>Aiouhhttp://tuxbell.com/index.php/StoresStores2013-05-27T20:55:59Z<p>Aiouh: /* Low Tier */</p>
<hr />
<div>'''Stores are categorized by tiers based on the average cost of clothing sold by the store.<br />
'''<br />
== Mall Tier / Fast Fashion == <br />
(Good for basics; t-shirts, underwear, socks, etc.)<br />
<br />
http://www.topman.com<br />
<br />
http://www.hm.com/ - Recommended for very basic pieces, don't buy shoes from them.<br />
<br />
http://www.aldoshoes.com - Shoes will fall apart within a month. Only buy on SALE.<br />
<br />
[http://www.ae.com/ http://www.americaneagle.com/]<br />
<br />
http://www.aeropostale.com/<br />
<br />
http://www.americanapparel.net/ - Has basic t-shirts in a variety of cuts.<br />
<br />
[http://www.gap.com/ Gap, Old Navy, Banana Republic]<br />
<br />
http://www.jcpenney.com/<br />
<br />
http://www.express.com/<br />
<br />
http://www.ralphlauren.com/<br />
<br />
http://www.macys.com/<br />
<br />
== Low Tier ==<br />
http://www.Uniqlo.com - Above average quality basics, recommended for entry level.<br />
<br />
http://www.Levi.com - Large selection of jeans (among other things) in a variety of colors and cuts. The quality is beginner level in their cheaper jeans not made in the USA. Levi's often has sales, so avoid buying at full retail. Avoid if you live outside NA, ridiculous markups.<br />
<br />
http://www.riverisland.com/<br />
<br />
http://www.jcrew.com/index.jsp - Good quality clothes with acceptable cuts. High-ish price for the quality they offer {{Citation needed}}<br />
<br />
http://www.karmaloop.com/ - Has sales literally almost every day. Can sometimes find entry-level designer brands (e.g. Naked and Famous) at deep discount.<br />
<br />
http://www.frankandoak.com/ - Good quality Menswear basics for around the same prices as Uniqlo. I wouldn't recommend them for taller guys, as everything seems to run a bit short. Free shipping.<br />
<br />
== Middle Tier ==<br />
http://www.yoox.com/<br />
<br />
http://www.allsaints.com/<br />
<br />
http://www.april77-shop.com/ - April 77 is notable for their large selection jeans which come in many different sizes, cuts, and colors.<br />
<br />
http://shop.nordstrom.com/<br />
<br />
http://www.revolveclothing.com/<br />
<br />
== High Tier ==<br />
http://www.unionmadegoods.com/ <br />
<br />
http://tateandyoko.com/<br />
<br />
http://www.superdenim.co.uk/<br />
<br />
http://blueingreensoho.com/<br />
<br />
http://www.thecorner.com/<br />
<br />
http://shop.tres-bien.com/<br />
<br />
[[SSENSE]] ([http://www.ssense.com/ link])<br />
<br />
http://www.farfetch.com/<br />
<br />
http://www.mrporter.com/<br />
<br />
http://www.reborn.ws/ - All orders made by email<br />
<br />
http://www.rodengray.com/ - Vancouver, Canada<br />
<br />
http://www.nomadshop.net/ - Toronto, Canada<br />
<br />
http://www.ln-cc.com/ - Online & London, UK<br />
<br />
http://ateliernewyork.com/<br />
<br />
== 4.0 tier ==<br />
[http://www.darklandsberlin.com/ 4.0]<br />
<br />
== Uncategorized Tier ==<br />
http://butterflysoulfire.blogspot.co.nz/<br />
<br />
http://www.readytofish.nl/<br />
<br />
http://www.blackbirdballard.com/<br />
<br />
http://shop.hlorenzo.com/<br />
<br />
http://www.antonioli.eu/en/women<br />
<br />
http://www.ink-clothing.com/en/main.php<br />
<br />
http://www.nagnagnagshop.com/<br />
<br />
http://shopnumber4.com/<br />
<br />
http://www.guyiconsignment.com/<br />
<br />
http://www.thecorner.com/<br />
<br />
http://www.e-g.co/<br />
<br />
http://re-porter.ca/<br />
<br />
http://doshaburi.ocnk.net/<br />
<br />
http://oparis.bigcartel.com/<br />
<br />
http://orimono.se/<br />
<br />
http://suspensionpoint.ca/<br />
<br />
http://www.vrients.com/en/<br />
<br />
http://www.daad-dantone.com/<br />
<br />
http://www.gilt.com/<br />
<br />
http://www.myhabit.com/<br />
<br />
http://gravitypopetailoredgoods.blogspot.com/<br />
<br />
http://shopsydneys.com/ - Toronto, Canada<br />
<br />
http://www.jonathanandolivia.com/<br />
<br />
http://www.tntblu.net/<br />
<br />
I think I didn't mention that gilt and myhabit require to make a amazon account or something? But I think it's free to make just a tiny bit of registration process.<br />
<br />
Here are weird sort of Japanese Ebays but things go crazy cheap here. Talked to heaps of people that have found anything from Yohji Yamamoto to pre-2000s Helmut Lang and MMM for less than $50.<br />
It sort of requires heaps of dedication and watching so idk, ive never put in the effort myself.<br />
http://global.rakuten.com/en/<br />
http://www.yahoo.co.jp/</div>Aiouhhttp://tuxbell.com/index.php/Men%27s_BasicsMen's Basics2013-05-27T20:49:23Z<p>Aiouh: /* Tops */</p>
<hr />
<div>New to /fa/? Come here from MFA and need to start over? Girlfriend burn your clothes? We understand.<br />
<br />
Here's where to find some wardrobe essentials on the cheap.<br />
<br />
If you are out of shape, pay a visit to [http://www.4chan.org/fit /fit/] and return when you have your ideal body.<br />
<br />
The following is a very strongly recommended read (It is collapsed to save space).<br />
<br />
<div class="toccolours mw-collapsible mw-collapsed" style="width:80%"><br />
'''ALL I WANT TO PROVIDE IS SOME CONTEXT AND INTRODUCTION TO THE FACT THAT FASHION IS MUCH MORE THAN JUST PUTTING OUTFITS TOGETHER AND LOOKING GOOD AND BRANDS AND BUYING THINGS'''<br />
<br />
'''*People seem to forget that /fa/ is a board on 4CHAN. So take a step back from time to time and make your own decisions. You want advice but you don’t want to listen to everything that everyone tells you to do. This also applies to what I'm about to tell you. Read it and decide for yourself what you agree with and disagree with, I am just putting my thoughts out here so that more people have access to things that they aren't told when they first begin. You WILL make mistakes; don’t try to listen to everyone here all the time. If you like it and it seems like a good purchase at the time, then go for it. You learn the most from mistakes. This is about developing YOUR understanding of fashion.'''<br />
<br />
Before jumping into the world of fashion, take a step back and honestly evaluate yourself. Are there certain features of yours that you can improve right now? Could you use a bit of exercise and lose some weight? Do you need to clean up your skin a bit? If you wear glasses, do you look better with or without them? Could you pick up some better looking frames? Is your hair unmanageable and / or awkward? Do you need to improve your social skills a bit?<br />
<br />
After you’ve roughly evaluated yourself and your features, I personally would advise you to clean yourself up as much as you can afford to right now. I’m not saying everyone should buy a gym pass or go to the dermatologist and come back after a makeover or anything; the purpose of this is to identify areas that you haven’t really been putting much care into. Maybe you can start eating a bit healthier, going on some runs, do some push ups and sit ups at home, make an effort to establish a consistent skincare routine, and whatever else. <br />
<br />
Why am I asking you to do these things? Think of it like this: When painting a beautiful picture, ideally you would want to paint on the cleanest, best quality canvas available. So by improving your weaknesses, you are building a more solid foundation to “paint” upon. Besides, it takes a while to learn and actually start developing taste, so why wouldn’t you improve yourself before and during the beginning of your journey? Little tweaks and fixes and whatnot can be made along the way as well. <br />
<br />
Ok, so you’re content with your features now. Where do you start? I should go look at these guides and info graphs and ask other people what to buy right?<br />
Nope, sorry but you’re going to have to do a bit more self reflection. What do you want out of fashion right now? Do you want to just look presentable / average? Were you inspired by people in nice clothing (Movies, Advertisements, and Celebrities etc) and want to dress very well? Do you want fashion to be a part of your lifestyle and meet more people? None of these are bad or wrong, and will most likely change along the way but just ask yourself what you want it to be right here, right now at this point in your life. Something we all need to realise and constantly remind ourselves of is,<br />
<br />
'''FASHION IS DIFFERENT FOR EVERYONE. EVERYONE PARTAKES IN IT FOR DIFFERENT REASONS AND NOT EVERYONE IS AT THE SAME POINT ALONG THEIR JOURNEY. SOME DECIDE TO STOP ALTOGETHER AND BE CONTENT WITH WHAT THEY’VE ACHIEVED, AND THAT’S OK. SOME SEEK TO GO ABOVE AND BEYOND THE NORM TO A POINT WHERE NOT EVERYONE EVEN WITHIN FASHION WILL UNDERSTAND IT.'''<br />
<br />
However you want to approach fashion, it is important to always keep an open mind. In my opinion, to be a truly fashionable person you not only have to look great but have a “fashionable” mentality. There will probably come a point where you think you’re getting the hang of things and start looking down on or judging the way others dress. If you find yourself doing this then remind yourself of the statement above. Again, I’m not telling you to be like Buddha and be accepting of everything and be neutral and at peace with everything. It’s just that personally I’ve found myself being biased a lot of the time, and reminding myself of that fact and then applying it to the context of what I’m thinking of leads to new ways of looking at things. Another important thing, you also have to be able to represent your image with confidence. Personally I’ve found that when dressing in a manner that is true to your background, beliefs, and taste, confidence naturally follows. This doesn’t mean that you won’t feel out of place or insecure when trying new things and wearing them outside, it just means that you will get used to it.<br />
<br />
'''This is all the general fashion "philosophy"? Advice I have right now, feel free to edit grammar etc. Started writing a general "How to actually start buying stuff" section below but wasn't sure how to approach it in a broad manner so that I'm not telling people YOU NEED TO DO X Y AND Z AND A B AND C THEN U WILL B DRESS WELL LOL so yeah give it a read and suggest improvements plz:'''<br />
<br />
Well now you need to put your basic knowledge to use and actually buy some clothes. If you are just an average guy who isn’t heavily influenced by styles stemming from subcultures, (Musical genres, hobbies and whatnot) chances are you will be drawn to traditional menswear or streetwear. Educate yourself on what the general “styles” look like (Note: While they are different and unique in their own ways, don’t segregate or just stick to one religiously, some people think fashion is some kind of RPG where you need to choose your race or some shit and dress either “menswear”, “streetwear”, or “avant garde” when it’s about building your own style based on what you like, drawing inspiration from many things like your personal experiences and influences.) and also look at brands through the brands and stores pages so you have an idea of what is accessible near you irl and what kind of stuff they sell. <br />
<br />
When you have a general idea of what you want to look like, go out and try things on. Walk into a store and grab whatever you like and try them on. The way it fits is one of the most important factors. As you look at more and more pictures you will naturally be able to distinguish a good fit vs a bad fit. Some things to take into consideration when making a purchase is: 1. Can the piece can be well incorporated into the rest of your current wardrobe? 2. Do you truly like it and aren’t being heavily influenced by sales or marketing strategies?<br />
</div><br />
<br />
== Tops ==<br />
<br />
'''T-Shirts'''<br />
<br />
You don't want tees that fit too close to the body nor tees that are too baggy. Be prepared to try a bunch of brands before you find a cut that fits you the best.<br />
Also try to figure out whether v-necks or crewnecks flatter you better. You still want to have both though.<br />
<br />
- Plenty of grey, black, and white tees. These are neutral colors that can almost be worn with anything without spending too much thought and will provide solid base to expand upon.<br />
<br />
- Solid color tees in colors that suit you well. Desaturated/muted colors work well here. They generally shouldn't clash or match with your skintone. Newbies: Stick with solid color tees until you acquire a taste for what designs on a graphic shirt work.<br />
<br />
<br />
'''Shirts (Button-downs/ups)'''<br />
<br />
-For reference, button-downs and button-ups are simply referred to as "shirt" by the majority of online stores. Other shirts will often be labelled as such, e.g. tees, polos. Fit is everything here, especially in a business environment where it is difficult to stand out.<br />
<br />
- Amount varies greatly - if your job requires them, get more. DON'T BUY: black dress shirts, striped dress shirts. Trust us. White, light blue You can opt for solid colors to play it safe, go for a gingham, or another subtle pattern. Buy flannels sparingly.<br />
<br />
== Bottoms ==<br />
<br />
== Shoes ==<br />
<br />
'''Low-top sneakers''': Low-tops are extremely versatile, and a great replacement for ratty tennis shoes. They can easily be dressed up or down. These are often not too pricey. A few pairs, in mute colors like white or black, should cover your wardrobe and not break the bank.<br />
<br />
'''Boots''': See the [[Boots]] page for more details. Boots are often less versatile than sneakers, but are just as vital to a wardrobe. Two pairs, one black & one brown, is a good start. Beeswax Clarks Desert Boots, while overplayed, can be a great casual boot. Decent brands include: Wolverine, Doc Martens, and [[Red Wing]].<br />
<br />
== Outerwear ==<br />
<br />
== Accessories ==<br />
[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joke A fedora is always a top priority to be stylish. Don't forget to brush up on your Japanese and wear your trench coat.]</div>Aiouhhttp://tuxbell.com/index.php/Men%27s_BasicsMen's Basics2013-05-27T20:46:29Z<p>Aiouh: /* Tops */</p>
<hr />
<div>New to /fa/? Come here from MFA and need to start over? Girlfriend burn your clothes? We understand.<br />
<br />
Here's where to find some wardrobe essentials on the cheap.<br />
<br />
If you are out of shape, pay a visit to [http://www.4chan.org/fit /fit/] and return when you have your ideal body.<br />
<br />
The following is a very strongly recommended read (It is collapsed to save space).<br />
<br />
<div class="toccolours mw-collapsible mw-collapsed" style="width:80%"><br />
'''ALL I WANT TO PROVIDE IS SOME CONTEXT AND INTRODUCTION TO THE FACT THAT FASHION IS MUCH MORE THAN JUST PUTTING OUTFITS TOGETHER AND LOOKING GOOD AND BRANDS AND BUYING THINGS'''<br />
<br />
'''*People seem to forget that /fa/ is a board on 4CHAN. So take a step back from time to time and make your own decisions. You want advice but you don’t want to listen to everything that everyone tells you to do. This also applies to what I'm about to tell you. Read it and decide for yourself what you agree with and disagree with, I am just putting my thoughts out here so that more people have access to things that they aren't told when they first begin. You WILL make mistakes; don’t try to listen to everyone here all the time. If you like it and it seems like a good purchase at the time, then go for it. You learn the most from mistakes. This is about developing YOUR understanding of fashion.'''<br />
<br />
Before jumping into the world of fashion, take a step back and honestly evaluate yourself. Are there certain features of yours that you can improve right now? Could you use a bit of exercise and lose some weight? Do you need to clean up your skin a bit? If you wear glasses, do you look better with or without them? Could you pick up some better looking frames? Is your hair unmanageable and / or awkward? Do you need to improve your social skills a bit?<br />
<br />
After you’ve roughly evaluated yourself and your features, I personally would advise you to clean yourself up as much as you can afford to right now. I’m not saying everyone should buy a gym pass or go to the dermatologist and come back after a makeover or anything; the purpose of this is to identify areas that you haven’t really been putting much care into. Maybe you can start eating a bit healthier, going on some runs, do some push ups and sit ups at home, make an effort to establish a consistent skincare routine, and whatever else. <br />
<br />
Why am I asking you to do these things? Think of it like this: When painting a beautiful picture, ideally you would want to paint on the cleanest, best quality canvas available. So by improving your weaknesses, you are building a more solid foundation to “paint” upon. Besides, it takes a while to learn and actually start developing taste, so why wouldn’t you improve yourself before and during the beginning of your journey? Little tweaks and fixes and whatnot can be made along the way as well. <br />
<br />
Ok, so you’re content with your features now. Where do you start? I should go look at these guides and info graphs and ask other people what to buy right?<br />
Nope, sorry but you’re going to have to do a bit more self reflection. What do you want out of fashion right now? Do you want to just look presentable / average? Were you inspired by people in nice clothing (Movies, Advertisements, and Celebrities etc) and want to dress very well? Do you want fashion to be a part of your lifestyle and meet more people? None of these are bad or wrong, and will most likely change along the way but just ask yourself what you want it to be right here, right now at this point in your life. Something we all need to realise and constantly remind ourselves of is,<br />
<br />
'''FASHION IS DIFFERENT FOR EVERYONE. EVERYONE PARTAKES IN IT FOR DIFFERENT REASONS AND NOT EVERYONE IS AT THE SAME POINT ALONG THEIR JOURNEY. SOME DECIDE TO STOP ALTOGETHER AND BE CONTENT WITH WHAT THEY’VE ACHIEVED, AND THAT’S OK. SOME SEEK TO GO ABOVE AND BEYOND THE NORM TO A POINT WHERE NOT EVERYONE EVEN WITHIN FASHION WILL UNDERSTAND IT.'''<br />
<br />
However you want to approach fashion, it is important to always keep an open mind. In my opinion, to be a truly fashionable person you not only have to look great but have a “fashionable” mentality. There will probably come a point where you think you’re getting the hang of things and start looking down on or judging the way others dress. If you find yourself doing this then remind yourself of the statement above. Again, I’m not telling you to be like Buddha and be accepting of everything and be neutral and at peace with everything. It’s just that personally I’ve found myself being biased a lot of the time, and reminding myself of that fact and then applying it to the context of what I’m thinking of leads to new ways of looking at things. Another important thing, you also have to be able to represent your image with confidence. Personally I’ve found that when dressing in a manner that is true to your background, beliefs, and taste, confidence naturally follows. This doesn’t mean that you won’t feel out of place or insecure when trying new things and wearing them outside, it just means that you will get used to it.<br />
<br />
'''This is all the general fashion "philosophy"? Advice I have right now, feel free to edit grammar etc. Started writing a general "How to actually start buying stuff" section below but wasn't sure how to approach it in a broad manner so that I'm not telling people YOU NEED TO DO X Y AND Z AND A B AND C THEN U WILL B DRESS WELL LOL so yeah give it a read and suggest improvements plz:'''<br />
<br />
Well now you need to put your basic knowledge to use and actually buy some clothes. If you are just an average guy who isn’t heavily influenced by styles stemming from subcultures, (Musical genres, hobbies and whatnot) chances are you will be drawn to traditional menswear or streetwear. Educate yourself on what the general “styles” look like (Note: While they are different and unique in their own ways, don’t segregate or just stick to one religiously, some people think fashion is some kind of RPG where you need to choose your race or some shit and dress either “menswear”, “streetwear”, or “avant garde” when it’s about building your own style based on what you like, drawing inspiration from many things like your personal experiences and influences.) and also look at brands through the brands and stores pages so you have an idea of what is accessible near you irl and what kind of stuff they sell. <br />
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When you have a general idea of what you want to look like, go out and try things on. Walk into a store and grab whatever you like and try them on. The way it fits is one of the most important factors. As you look at more and more pictures you will naturally be able to distinguish a good fit vs a bad fit. Some things to take into consideration when making a purchase is: 1. Can the piece can be well incorporated into the rest of your current wardrobe? 2. Do you truly like it and aren’t being heavily influenced by sales or marketing strategies?<br />
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== Tops ==<br />
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The following is merely an example of a good starting wardrobe's tops. Use as a template, and change to fit your needs.<br />
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'''T-Shirts'''<br />
<br />
You don't want tees that fit too close to the body nor tees that are too baggy. Be prepared to try a bunch of brands before you find a cut that fits you the best.<br />
Also try to figure out whether v-necks or crewnecks flatter you better. You still want to have both though.<br />
<br />
- Plenty of grey, black, and white tees. These are neutral colors that can almost be worn with anything without spending too much thought and will provide solid base to expand upon.<br />
<br />
- Solid color tees in colors that suit you well. Desaturated/muted colors work well here. They generally shouldn't clash or match with your skintone. Newbies: Stick with solid color tees until you acquire a taste for what designs on a graphic shirt work.<br />
<br />
<br />
'''Shirts (Button-downs/ups)'''<br />
<br />
-For reference, button-downs and button-ups are simply referred to as "shirt" by the majority of online stores. Other shirts will often be labelled as such, e.g. tees, polos. Fit is everything here, especially in a business environment where it is difficult to stand out.<br />
<br />
- Amount varies greatly - if your job requires them, get more. DON'T BUY: black dress shirts, striped dress shirts. Trust us. White, light blue You can opt for solid colors to play it safe, go for a gingham, or another subtle pattern. Buy flannels sparingly.<br />
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== Bottoms ==<br />
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== Shoes ==<br />
<br />
'''Low-top sneakers''': Low-tops are extremely versatile, and a great replacement for ratty tennis shoes. They can easily be dressed up or down. These are often not too pricey. A few pairs, in mute colors like white or black, should cover your wardrobe and not break the bank.<br />
<br />
'''Boots''': See the [[Boots]] page for more details. Boots are often less versatile than sneakers, but are just as vital to a wardrobe. Two pairs, one black & one brown, is a good start. Beeswax Clarks Desert Boots, while overplayed, can be a great casual boot. Decent brands include: Wolverine, Doc Martens, and [[Red Wing]].<br />
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== Outerwear ==<br />
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== Accessories ==<br />
[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joke A fedora is always a top priority to be stylish. Don't forget to brush up on your Japanese and wear your trench coat.]</div>Aiouhhttp://tuxbell.com/index.php/Men%27s_BasicsMen's Basics2013-05-27T20:44:56Z<p>Aiouh: /* Tops */</p>
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<div>New to /fa/? Come here from MFA and need to start over? Girlfriend burn your clothes? We understand.<br />
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Here's where to find some wardrobe essentials on the cheap.<br />
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If you are out of shape, pay a visit to [http://www.4chan.org/fit /fit/] and return when you have your ideal body.<br />
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The following is a very strongly recommended read (It is collapsed to save space).<br />
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'''ALL I WANT TO PROVIDE IS SOME CONTEXT AND INTRODUCTION TO THE FACT THAT FASHION IS MUCH MORE THAN JUST PUTTING OUTFITS TOGETHER AND LOOKING GOOD AND BRANDS AND BUYING THINGS'''<br />
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'''*People seem to forget that /fa/ is a board on 4CHAN. So take a step back from time to time and make your own decisions. You want advice but you don’t want to listen to everything that everyone tells you to do. This also applies to what I'm about to tell you. Read it and decide for yourself what you agree with and disagree with, I am just putting my thoughts out here so that more people have access to things that they aren't told when they first begin. You WILL make mistakes; don’t try to listen to everyone here all the time. If you like it and it seems like a good purchase at the time, then go for it. You learn the most from mistakes. This is about developing YOUR understanding of fashion.'''<br />
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Before jumping into the world of fashion, take a step back and honestly evaluate yourself. Are there certain features of yours that you can improve right now? Could you use a bit of exercise and lose some weight? Do you need to clean up your skin a bit? If you wear glasses, do you look better with or without them? Could you pick up some better looking frames? Is your hair unmanageable and / or awkward? Do you need to improve your social skills a bit?<br />
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After you’ve roughly evaluated yourself and your features, I personally would advise you to clean yourself up as much as you can afford to right now. I’m not saying everyone should buy a gym pass or go to the dermatologist and come back after a makeover or anything; the purpose of this is to identify areas that you haven’t really been putting much care into. Maybe you can start eating a bit healthier, going on some runs, do some push ups and sit ups at home, make an effort to establish a consistent skincare routine, and whatever else. <br />
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Why am I asking you to do these things? Think of it like this: When painting a beautiful picture, ideally you would want to paint on the cleanest, best quality canvas available. So by improving your weaknesses, you are building a more solid foundation to “paint” upon. Besides, it takes a while to learn and actually start developing taste, so why wouldn’t you improve yourself before and during the beginning of your journey? Little tweaks and fixes and whatnot can be made along the way as well. <br />
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Ok, so you’re content with your features now. Where do you start? I should go look at these guides and info graphs and ask other people what to buy right?<br />
Nope, sorry but you’re going to have to do a bit more self reflection. What do you want out of fashion right now? Do you want to just look presentable / average? Were you inspired by people in nice clothing (Movies, Advertisements, and Celebrities etc) and want to dress very well? Do you want fashion to be a part of your lifestyle and meet more people? None of these are bad or wrong, and will most likely change along the way but just ask yourself what you want it to be right here, right now at this point in your life. Something we all need to realise and constantly remind ourselves of is,<br />
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'''FASHION IS DIFFERENT FOR EVERYONE. EVERYONE PARTAKES IN IT FOR DIFFERENT REASONS AND NOT EVERYONE IS AT THE SAME POINT ALONG THEIR JOURNEY. SOME DECIDE TO STOP ALTOGETHER AND BE CONTENT WITH WHAT THEY’VE ACHIEVED, AND THAT’S OK. SOME SEEK TO GO ABOVE AND BEYOND THE NORM TO A POINT WHERE NOT EVERYONE EVEN WITHIN FASHION WILL UNDERSTAND IT.'''<br />
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However you want to approach fashion, it is important to always keep an open mind. In my opinion, to be a truly fashionable person you not only have to look great but have a “fashionable” mentality. There will probably come a point where you think you’re getting the hang of things and start looking down on or judging the way others dress. If you find yourself doing this then remind yourself of the statement above. Again, I’m not telling you to be like Buddha and be accepting of everything and be neutral and at peace with everything. It’s just that personally I’ve found myself being biased a lot of the time, and reminding myself of that fact and then applying it to the context of what I’m thinking of leads to new ways of looking at things. Another important thing, you also have to be able to represent your image with confidence. Personally I’ve found that when dressing in a manner that is true to your background, beliefs, and taste, confidence naturally follows. This doesn’t mean that you won’t feel out of place or insecure when trying new things and wearing them outside, it just means that you will get used to it.<br />
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'''This is all the general fashion "philosophy"? Advice I have right now, feel free to edit grammar etc. Started writing a general "How to actually start buying stuff" section below but wasn't sure how to approach it in a broad manner so that I'm not telling people YOU NEED TO DO X Y AND Z AND A B AND C THEN U WILL B DRESS WELL LOL so yeah give it a read and suggest improvements plz:'''<br />
<br />
Well now you need to put your basic knowledge to use and actually buy some clothes. If you are just an average guy who isn’t heavily influenced by styles stemming from subcultures, (Musical genres, hobbies and whatnot) chances are you will be drawn to traditional menswear or streetwear. Educate yourself on what the general “styles” look like (Note: While they are different and unique in their own ways, don’t segregate or just stick to one religiously, some people think fashion is some kind of RPG where you need to choose your race or some shit and dress either “menswear”, “streetwear”, or “avant garde” when it’s about building your own style based on what you like, drawing inspiration from many things like your personal experiences and influences.) and also look at brands through the brands and stores pages so you have an idea of what is accessible near you irl and what kind of stuff they sell. <br />
<br />
When you have a general idea of what you want to look like, go out and try things on. Walk into a store and grab whatever you like and try them on. The way it fits is one of the most important factors. As you look at more and more pictures you will naturally be able to distinguish a good fit vs a bad fit. Some things to take into consideration when making a purchase is: 1. Can the piece can be well incorporated into the rest of your current wardrobe? 2. Do you truly like it and aren’t being heavily influenced by sales or marketing strategies?<br />
</div><br />
<br />
== Tops ==<br />
<br />
The following is merely an example of a good starting wardrobe's tops. Use as a template, and change to fit your needs.<br />
<br />
'''T-Shirts'''<br />
<br />
You don't want tees that fit too close to the body nor tees that are too baggy. Be prepared to try a bunch of brands before you find a cut that fits you the best.<br />
Also try to figure out whether v-necks or crewnecks flatter you better. You still want to have both though.<br />
<br />
- Plenty of grey, black, and white tees. These are neutral colors that can almost be worn with anything without spending too much thought and will provide solid base to expand upon.<br />
<br />
- Solid color tees in colors that suit you well. Desaturated/muted colors work well here. They shouldn't clash or match with your skintone. Newbies: Stick with solid color tees until you acquire a taste for what designs on a graphic shirt work.<br />
<br />
<br />
'''Shirts (button downs/ups)'''<br />
<br />
-For reference, button-downs & button-ups are simply referred to as "shirts" by the majority of online stores. Other shirts will often be labelled as such, e.g. tees, polos. Fit is everything here, especially in a business environment where it is difficult to stand out.<br />
<br />
- Amount varies greatly - if your job requires them, get more. DON'T BUY: black dress shirts, striped dress shirts. Trust us. White, light blue You can opt for solid colors to play it safe, go for a gingham, or another subtle pattern. Buy flannels sparingly.<br />
<br />
== Bottoms ==<br />
<br />
== Shoes ==<br />
<br />
'''Low-top sneakers''': Low-tops are extremely versatile, and a great replacement for ratty tennis shoes. They can easily be dressed up or down. These are often not too pricey. A few pairs, in mute colors like white or black, should cover your wardrobe and not break the bank.<br />
<br />
'''Boots''': See the [[Boots]] page for more details. Boots are often less versatile than sneakers, but are just as vital to a wardrobe. Two pairs, one black & one brown, is a good start. Beeswax Clarks Desert Boots, while overplayed, can be a great casual boot. Decent brands include: Wolverine, Doc Martens, and [[Red Wing]].<br />
<br />
== Outerwear ==<br />
<br />
== Accessories ==<br />
[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joke A fedora is always a top priority to be stylish. Don't forget to brush up on your Japanese and wear your trench coat.]</div>Aiouhhttp://tuxbell.com/index.php/Talk:/fa/_Sticky_HomeTalk:/fa/ Sticky Home2013-05-27T20:30:16Z<p>Aiouh: </p>
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<div>== GENERAL SUGGESTIONS / IMPROVEMENTS / FEEDBACK ==<br />
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Leave your suggestions and feedback here <br />
Free Discussion<br />
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The collapsed introduction shouldn't really be in the Men's Basics page.<br />
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Because:<br />
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It's for both genders and might be easily missed by femanons<br />
It doesn't have anything to do with basics<br />
It's hideous.<br />
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It should really be it's own page right below "About /fa/" in the navigation menu on the left.<br />
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Does that sound like a good idea?<br />
-aiouh</div>Aiouhhttp://tuxbell.com/index.php/Talk:Men%27s_BasicsTalk:Men's Basics2013-05-27T20:29:53Z<p>Aiouh: /* Collapsed Text */</p>
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<div>fat people may or may not have normal-size feet. It might be useful to revise this to say that while fat people should be going to fit, if they're close enough they can start with shoes, though investment in pants and shirts is dumb</div>Aiouhhttp://tuxbell.com/index.php/Talk:Men%27s_BasicsTalk:Men's Basics2013-05-27T20:25:58Z<p>Aiouh: /* Collapsed Text */</p>
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<div>fat people may or may not have normal-size feet. It might be useful to revise this to say that while fat people should be going to fit, if they're close enough they can start with shoes, though investment in pants and shirts is dumb<br />
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== Collapsed Text ==<br />
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The collapsed introduction shouldn't really be in the Men's Basics page.<br />
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Because:<br />
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It's for both genders and might be easily missed by femanons<br />
It doesn't have anything to do with basics<br />
It's hideous.<br />
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It should really be it's own page right below "About /fa/" in the navigation menu on the left.<br />
<br />
Does that sound like a good idea?<br />
-aiouh</div>Aiouhhttp://tuxbell.com/index.php/Talk:Men%27s_BasicsTalk:Men's Basics2013-05-27T20:25:24Z<p>Aiouh: /* Collapsed Text */</p>
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<div>fat people may or may not have normal-size feet. It might be useful to revise this to say that while fat people should be going to fit, if they're close enough they can start with shoes, though investment in pants and shirts is dumb<br />
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== Collapsed Text ==<br />
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The collapsed introduction shouldn't really be in the Men's Basics page.<br />
<br />
Because:<br />
<br />
It's for both genders and might be easily missed by femanons<br />
It doesn't have anything to do with basics<br />
It's hideous.<br />
<br />
It should really be it's own page right below "About /fa/" in the navigation menu on the left.<br />
<br />
Does that sound like a good idea?</div>Aiouhhttp://tuxbell.com/index.php/Talk:Men%27s_BasicsTalk:Men's Basics2013-05-27T20:25:09Z<p>Aiouh: /* Collapsed Text */ new section</p>
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<div>fat people may or may not have normal-size feet. It might be useful to revise this to say that while fat people should be going to fit, if they're close enough they can start with shoes, though investment in pants and shirts is dumb<br />
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== Collapsed Text ==<br />
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The collapsed introduction shouldn'r really be in the Men's Basics page.<br />
<br />
Because:<br />
<br />
It's for both genders and might be easily missed by femanons<br />
It doesn't have anything to do with basics<br />
It's hideous.<br />
<br />
It should really be it's own page right below "About /fa/" in the navigation menu on the left.<br />
<br />
Does that sound like a good idea?</div>Aiouh